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Mail From: Todd Paciorek <(email redacted)>

Well, I was tuning the red one today and I suddenly developed a
metal-on-metal noise that increases in volume dependant on boost... and
it's happening at lower and lower boost pressures.

So, I'm going to assume that either a) something is coming into contact
with the vanes of the impeller or turbine, or b) the impeller or turbine
blades are coming into contact with something.

Either way = not good. I've got the Big Ball Bearing turbo on this car
and like it, does anyone have any recommendations for a supplier of
cheap turbos? I'd like to buy a new one for this car, get the existing
turbo rebuilt and use it to replace the sleeve bearing one on my other
car that has shot oil seals.

Thanks!
Todd

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Mail From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>

Limit Engineering is the only vendor I'm aware of that can rebuild
those.=20=20


TurboDog's Dad
Bill Cardell
www.flyinmiata.com=20
1-800-FLY-MX5S
970-242-3800

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Paciorek [mailto:(email redacted)]=20
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:02 AM
To: 'MiataPower'
Subject: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?

Well, I was tuning the red one today and I suddenly developed a
metal-on-metal noise that increases in volume dependant on boost... and
it's happening at lower and lower boost pressures.

So, I'm going to assume that either a) something is coming into contact
with the vanes of the impeller or turbine, or b) the impeller or turbine
blades are coming into contact with something.

Either way =3D not good. I've got the Big Ball Bearing turbo on this car
and like it, does anyone have any recommendations for a supplier of
cheap turbos? I'd like to buy a new one for this car, get the existing
turbo rebuilt and use it to replace the sleeve bearing one on my other
car that has shot oil seals.

Thanks!
Todd

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Mail From: Todd Paciorek <(email redacted)>

Well, I took off the intake pipe and... is it good when you grab the
center shaft and it jiggles both up/down AND in/out? Hmmmm...

I don't know if I would be better off to have it rebuilt or just get a
new one. I had terrible luck getting my last one rebuilt.

Cheers,
Todd

Bill Cardell wrote:
> Limit Engineering is the only vendor I'm aware of that can rebuild
> those.
>
>
> TurboDog's Dad
> Bill Cardell
> www.flyinmiata.com
> 1-800-FLY-MX5S
> 970-242-3800
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Paciorek [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:02 AM
> To: 'MiataPower'
> Subject: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?
>
> Well, I was tuning the red one today and I suddenly developed a
> metal-on-metal noise that increases in volume dependant on boost... and
> it's happening at lower and lower boost pressures.
>
> So, I'm going to assume that either a) something is coming into contact
> with the vanes of the impeller or turbine, or b) the impeller or turbine
> blades are coming into contact with something.
>
> Either way = not good. I've got the Big Ball Bearing turbo on this car
> and like it, does anyone have any recommendations for a supplier of
> cheap turbos? I'd like to buy a new one for this car, get the existing
> turbo rebuilt and use it to replace the sleeve bearing one on my other
> car that has shot oil seals.
>
> Thanks!
> Todd
>
>

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Mail From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>

Who did the last one? I've never had any issues with Limit, they're
straight shooters.=20


TurboDog's Dad
Bill Cardell
www.flyinmiata.com=20
1-800-FLY-MX5S
970-242-3800

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Paciorek [mailto:(email redacted)]=20
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 12:05 PM
To: Bill Cardell
Cc: MiataPower
Subject: Re: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?

Well, I took off the intake pipe and... is it good when you grab the
center shaft and it jiggles both up/down AND in/out? Hmmmm...

I don't know if I would be better off to have it rebuilt or just get a
new one. I had terrible luck getting my last one rebuilt.

Cheers,
Todd

Bill Cardell wrote:
> Limit Engineering is the only vendor I'm aware of that can rebuild=20
> those.
>
>
> TurboDog's Dad
> Bill Cardell
> www.flyinmiata.com
> 1-800-FLY-MX5S
> 970-242-3800
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Paciorek [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:02 AM
> To: 'MiataPower'
> Subject: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?
>
> Well, I was tuning the red one today and I suddenly developed a=20
> metal-on-metal noise that increases in volume dependant on boost...=20
> and it's happening at lower and lower boost pressures.
>
> So, I'm going to assume that either a) something is coming into=20
> contact with the vanes of the impeller or turbine, or b) the impeller=20
> or turbine blades are coming into contact with something.
>
> Either way =3D not good. I've got the Big Ball Bearing turbo on this car

> and like it, does anyone have any recommendations for a supplier of=20
> cheap turbos? I'd like to buy a new one for this car, get the existing

> turbo rebuilt and use it to replace the sleeve bearing one on my other

> car that has shot oil seals.
>
> Thanks!
> Todd
>
>=20=20=20

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Mail From: Todd Paciorek <(email redacted)>

Texas Rebuild did the last one. It's sitting in my black car right now
with a rear seal that blew after 3,000 miles the SECOND time they did it.

Looking around, the old style turbos are available cheaply, and this big
ball bearing seemed to take a while to spool on the 1.6l, would I be
terrible if I replaced it with the smaller sleeve bearing unit?



Bill Cardell wrote:
> Who did the last one? I've never had any issues with Limit, they're
> straight shooters.
>
>
> TurboDog's Dad
> Bill Cardell
> www.flyinmiata.com
> 1-800-FLY-MX5S
> 970-242-3800
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Mail From: "Ray" <(email redacted)>

Personally I always preferred the SB over the .64A/R BB on my 1.8 for stree=
t use. I once drove a 1.8 with a .49A/R BB that I liked but was never abl=
e to find one to buy.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Todd Paciorek=20
To: Bill Cardell=20
Cc: MiataPower=20
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?


Texas Rebuild did the last one. It's sitting in my black car right now wi=
th a rear seal that blew after 3,000 miles the SECOND time they did it.=20

Looking around, the old style turbos are available cheaply, and this big =
ball bearing seemed to take a while to spool on the 1.6l, would I be terrib=
le if I replaced it with the smaller sleeve bearing unit?



Bill Cardell wrote:=20
Who did the last one? I've never had any issues with Limit, they're
straight shooters.=20


TurboDog's Dad
Bill Cardell
www.flyinmiata.com=20
1-800-FLY-MX5S
970-242-3800


=20=20

=20=20

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<FONT face=3D"Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size=
=3D2><DIV><DIV><DIV>I second Limit.. had my BBB rebuilt last fall, same pro=
blem. $350 and perfecto all year so far.. they blast them and respray them =
silver too. :)&nbsp; As long as the damage isn't too bad they don't have to=
replace all kinds of stuff, the $350 is the basic rebuild.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp=
;</DIV><DIV>I forget the dude's name over there.. like "Killer" or "Wrench"=
or something equally fun.&nbsp; Top notch folks, and couldn't be happier.<=
/DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Wallyman</DIV><DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT color=
=3D#990099>-----Todd Paciorek &lt;(email redacted)&gt; wrote: -----<BR>=
<BR></FONT><blockquote style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARG=
IN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">To: Bill C=
ardell &lt;(email redacted)&gt;<BR>From: Todd Paciorek &lt;blood@mindspr=
ing.com&gt;<BR>Date: 08/05/2006 02:05PM<BR>cc: MiataPower &lt;miatapower@mi=
atapower.net&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?<BR><=
BR><FONT face=3Dmonospace size=3D2>Well, I took off the intake pipe and... =
is it good when you grab the <BR>center shaft and it jiggles both up/down A=
ND in/out? Hmmmm...<BR><BR>I don't know if I would be better off to have it=
rebuilt or just get a <BR>new one. I had terrible luck getting my last one=
rebuilt.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Todd<BR><BR>Bill Cardell wrote:<BR>&gt; Limit E=
ngineering is the only vendor I'm aware of that can rebuild<BR>&gt; those. =
&nbsp;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; TurboDog's Dad<BR>&gt; Bill Cardell<BR>&gt; =
www.flyinmiata.com <BR>&gt; 1-800-FLY-MX5S<BR>&gt; 970-242-3800<BR>&gt;<BR>=
&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Todd Paciorek [<A href=3D"mai=
lto:(email redacted)" target=3Dblank >mailto:(email redacted)</A>] =
<BR>&gt; Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:02 AM<BR>&gt; To: 'MiataPower'<=
BR>&gt; Subject: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Well=
, I was tuning the red one today and I suddenly developed a<BR>&gt; metal-o=
n-metal noise that increases in volume dependant on boost... and<BR>&gt; it=
's happening at lower and lower boost pressures.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; So, I'm go=
ing to assume that either a) something is coming into contact<BR>&gt; with =
the vanes of the impeller or turbine, or b) the impeller or turbine<BR>&gt;=
blades are coming into contact with something.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Either way =
=3D not good. I've got the Big Ball Bearing turbo on this car<BR>&gt; and l=
ike it, does anyone have any recommendations for a supplier of<BR>&gt; chea=
p turbos? I'd like to buy a new one for this car, get the existing<BR>&gt; =
turbo rebuilt and use it to replace the sleeve bearing one on my other<BR>&=
gt; car that has shot oil seals.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks!<BR>&gt; Todd<BR>&g=
t;<BR>&gt; &nbsp; <BR><BR></FONT></blockquote><br></DIV></DIV></FONT><BR><t=
able border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" width=3D"610"><tr><td=
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Mail From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>

"Chopper"
=20
Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
www.flyinmiata.com <flyinmiata.com/>=20
1-800-FLY-MX5S
tech 970-242-3800
=20

________________________________

From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]=20
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 3:17 PM
To: Todd Paciorek
Cc: Bill Cardell; MiataPower
Subject: Re: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?


I second Limit.. had my BBB rebuilt last fall, same problem. $350 and
perfecto all year so far.. they blast them and respray them silver too.
:) As long as the damage isn't too bad they don't have to replace all
kinds of stuff, the $350 is the basic rebuild.
=20
I forget the dude's name over there.. like "Killer" or "Wrench" or
something equally fun. Top notch folks, and couldn't be happier.
=20
Wallyman

=20
-----Todd Paciorek <(email redacted)> wrote: -----



To: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>
From: Todd Paciorek <(email redacted)>
Date: 08/05/2006 02:05PM
cc: MiataPower <(email redacted)>
Subject: Re: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?
=09
Well, I took off the intake pipe and... is it good when you grab
the=20
center shaft and it jiggles both up/down AND in/out? Hmmmm...
=09
I don't know if I would be better off to have it rebuilt or just
get a=20
new one. I had terrible luck getting my last one rebuilt.
=09
Cheers,
Todd
=09
Bill Cardell wrote:
> Limit Engineering is the only vendor I'm aware of that can
rebuild
> those.=20=20
>
>
> TurboDog's Dad
> Bill Cardell
> www.flyinmiata.com=20
> 1-800-FLY-MX5S
> 970-242-3800
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Paciorek [mailto:(email redacted)]=20
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:02 AM
> To: 'MiataPower'
> Subject: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo?
>
> Well, I was tuning the red one today and I suddenly developed
a
> metal-on-metal noise that increases in volume dependant on
boost... and
> it's happening at lower and lower boost pressures.
>
> So, I'm going to assume that either a) something is coming
into contact
> with the vanes of the impeller or turbine, or b) the impeller
or turbine
> blades are coming into contact with something.
>
> Either way =3D not good. I've got the Big Ball Bearing turbo on
this car
> and like it, does anyone have any recommendations for a
supplier of
> cheap turbos? I'd like to buy a new one for this car, get the
existing
> turbo rebuilt and use it to replace the sleeve bearing one on
my other
> car that has shot oil seals.
>
> Thanks!
> Todd
>
>=20=20=20
=09
=09




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<FONT face=3D"Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size=
=3D2><DIV>Yup, that's the guy. :)</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Wallyman</DIV>=
<DIV><FONT color=3D#990099></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=3D#990099></=
FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT color=3D#990099>-----"Bill Cardell" &lt;Bill@fl=
yinmiata.com&gt; wrote: -----<BR><BR></DIV></FONT><DIV><blockquote style=3D=
"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000=
000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">To: &lt;(email redacted)&gt;, "Tod=
d Paciorek" &lt;(email redacted)&gt;<BR>From: "Bill Cardell" &lt;Bill@f=
lyinmiata.com&gt;<BR>Date: 08/05/2006 05:33PM<BR>cc: "MiataPower" &lt;miata=
(email redacted)&gt;<BR>Subject: RE: Best (cheapest) place to buy a tur=
bo?<BR><BR><DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D781113321-05082006><FO=
NT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>"Chopper" </FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV=
> </DIV><DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2>Bill Cardell (T=
urboDog's Dad) </FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial><A =
href=3D"flyinmiata.com/" target=3Dblank><FONT size=3D2>www.flyin=
miata.com </FONT></A></FONT></DIV><DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=
=3D2>1-800-FLY-MX5S </FONT></DIV><DIV align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial size=
=3D2>tech 970-242-3800 </FONT></DIV><DIV> </DIV><BR><DIV class=3DOutlookMes=
sageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><HR tabIndex=3D-1><FONT face=
=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From: </B>(email redacted) [mailto:Walt_Helsel=
@URSCorp.com] <BR><B>Sent: </B>Saturday, August 05, 2006 3:17 PM <BR><B>To:=
</B>Todd Paciorek <BR><B>Cc: </B>Bill Cardell; MiataPower <BR><B>Subject: =
</B>Re: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo? <BR></FONT><BR></DIV><DIV></D=
IV><FONT face=3D"Default Sans Serif,Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" siz=
e=3D2><DIV><DIV><DIV>I second Limit.. had my BBB rebuilt last fall, same pr=
oblem. $350 and perfecto all year so far.. they blast them and respray them=
silver too. :)&nbsp; As long as the damage isn't too bad they don't have t=
o replace all kinds of stuff, the $350 is the basic rebuild. </DIV><DIV> </=
DIV><DIV>I forget the dude's name over there.. like "Killer" or "Wrench" or=
something equally fun.&nbsp; Top notch folks, and couldn't be happier. </D=
IV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Wallyman </DIV><DIV><BR>&nbsp; </DIV><FONT color=3D#990=
099>-----Todd Paciorek &lt;(email redacted)&gt; wrote: ----- <BR><BR></=
FONT><BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEF=
T: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">To: Bill Cardell=
&lt;(email redacted)&gt; <BR>From: Todd Paciorek &lt;blood@mindspring.c=
om&gt; <BR>Date: 08/05/2006 02:05PM <BR>cc: MiataPower &lt;miatapower@miata=
power.net&gt; <BR>Subject: Re: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo? <BR><B=
R><FONT face=3Dmonospace size=3D2>Well, I took off the intake pipe and... i=
s it good when you grab the <BR>center shaft and it jiggles both up/down AN=
D in/out? Hmmmm... <BR><BR>I don't know if I would be better off to have it=
rebuilt or just get a <BR>new one. I had terrible luck getting my last one=
rebuilt. <BR><BR>Cheers, <BR>Todd <BR><BR>Bill Cardell wrote: <BR>&gt; Lim=
it Engineering is the only vendor I'm aware of that can rebuild <BR>&gt; th=
ose. &nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; TurboDog's Dad <BR>&gt; Bill Cardell=
<BR>&gt; www.flyinmiata.com <BR>&gt; 1-800-FLY-MX5S <BR>&gt; 970-242-3800 =
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Original Message----- <BR>&gt; From: Todd Paciorek [=
<A href=3D"mailto:(email redacted)" target=3Dblank>mailto:blood@mindsp=
ring.com </A>] <BR>&gt; Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 11:02 AM <BR>&gt; T=
o: 'MiataPower' <BR>&gt; Subject: Best (cheapest) place to buy a turbo? <BR=
>&gt; <BR>&gt; Well, I was tuning the red one today and I suddenly develope=
d a <BR>&gt; metal-on-metal noise that increases in volume dependant on boo=
st... and <BR>&gt; it's happening at lower and lower boost pressures. <BR>&=
gt; <BR>&gt; So, I'm going to assume that either a) something is coming int=
o contact <BR>&gt; with the vanes of the impeller or turbine, or b) the imp=
eller or turbine <BR>&gt; blades are coming into contact with something. <B=
R>&gt; <BR>&gt; Either way =3D not good. I've got the Big Ball Bearing turb=
o on this car <BR>&gt; and like it, does anyone have any recommendations fo=
r a supplier of <BR>&gt; cheap turbos? I'd like to buy a new one for this c=
ar, get the existing <BR>&gt; turbo rebuilt and use it to replace the sleev=
e bearing one on my other <BR>&gt; car that has shot oil seals. <BR>&gt; <B=
R>&gt; Thanks! <BR>&gt; Todd <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &nbsp; <BR><BR></FONT></BLOC=
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