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Mail From: miatabill (Bill Kellenberger)

Yep, but it will interfere with your sun visors is you still have them on.

At 10:34 AM 6/4/2006, Dennis B. Swaney wrote:
>At 2:52 PM -0500 6/3/06, Bill Kellenberger wrote:
>>They've been talking it up on the forum for a while...I ordered one
>>and got it last week. I think it's well worth the investment.
>>
>>coolbreezescoop.com/servlet/StoreFront
>>
>>No affiliation, etc...just a happy customer.
>
>Can it be positoned anywhere else? I already have stuff mounted to
>the trim above the mirror.
>--
>
>Miataly,
>Dennis
>---
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>Oroville, California Team USAF
>Founding Member, S.A.M.O.A. Team Flyin' Miata
>Team California License Plate Blue Team Valentine 1
> ('90 VIN: 7028)

Bill Kellenberger
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Mail From: dwynne (Dennis Wynne)

I would think the drag of the scoop would hurt gas mileage at least as much
as running the A/C, I would think.

Dennis

>At 04:30 PM 6/3/2006, Hank wrote:
>>Necessity is the mother of invention and simplicity is always
>>best. Looks like a nice find.. Thanks. I've got A/C but just as soon
>>not use it and eliminate some of the power drain at least. Who knows,
>>might even save enough over the course of the summer in gas to pay for it.
>>

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Mail From: bryanewyatt (Bryan Wyatt)

I wouldn't believe it until I see numbers to confirm it. The scoop itself doesnt protrude any more than an inch above the windshield header, and not more than the width of the rearview mirror. You'd probably cause as much "damage" to gas mileage by holding your hand in the slipstream for the duration of your trip.

Of course, if you were truly concerned about gas mileage, you'd slap a hardtop on at all times and never run the AC, but I'm not that hardcore, and I doubt most folks are.

-Bryan

Dennis Wynne <(email redacted)> wrote:
I would think the drag of the scoop would hurt gas mileage at least as much
as running the A/C, I would think.

Dennis

>At 04:30 PM 6/3/2006, Hank wrote:
>>Necessity is the mother of invention and simplicity is always
>>best. Looks like a nice find.. Thanks. I've got A/C but just as soon
>>not use it and eliminate some of the power drain at least. Who knows,
>>might even save enough over the course of the summer in gas to pay for it.
>>

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Mail From: gpangrac (gpangrac)

I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the scoop. It only sits
~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.

Geoff

On 6/5/2006 6:47:23 AM, Dennis Wynne ((email redacted)) wrote:
I would think the drag of the scoop would hurt gas mileage at least as
much as running the A/C, I would think.
>
> Dennis
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Mail From: miata (David)

Ok, someone might as well state the obvious.

Why not flick the aircon controls so that it gets cool air from outside the
cabin and turn the fan on to blow cool air onto your feet and/or face.

That's achieving the same result without needing the aircon on.

- Dave.
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Mail From: the.jack (the.jack)

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Bryan Wyatt
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

I wouldn't believe it until I see numbers to confirm it. The scoop itself doesnt protrude any more than an inch above the
windshield header, and not more than the width of the rearview mirror. You'd probably cause as much "damage" to gas mileage by
holding your hand in the slipstream for the duration of your trip.

Of course, if you were truly concerned about gas mileage, you'd slap a hardtop on at all times and never run the AC, but I'm not
that hardcore, and I doubt most folks are.

-Bryan

-----Response-----

I'd think the top merely being down is a larger magnitude drag than simply attaching the scoop; ie if the tops already down, the
scoop is a small percentage of the "problem". Also it's going to be dependent on speed, whereas AC is always sapping your strength
at the same rate (well when the compressor's running anyway).

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

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Mail From: the.jack (the.jack)

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf of Geoff
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the
scoop. It only sits ~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.

Geoff

-----Response-----

Don't mention the Ubers... Brings a tear to my eye to think they're gone! WAAAAAAH!!!

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

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Mail From: bryanewyatt (Bryan Wyatt)

That's what I was getting at. If you're complaining about gas mileage from an object sticking up 1" above the windshield header, you've apparently missed the point about the immense inefficiency of running top-down in the first place.

-Bryan

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-----Response-----

I'd think the top merely being down is a larger magnitude drag than simply attaching the scoop; ie if the tops already down, the
scoop is a small percentage of the "problem". Also it's going to be dependent on speed, whereas AC is always sapping your strength
at the same rate (well when the compressor's running anyway).

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald


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On my 2000 all I get is warmed up air when I do that. At 80 degrees F
outside the air is warmer than that from the vents. I should someday take a digital
thermometer with me to see just how hot it is.

Rick

In a message dated 6/5/2006 9:07:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
(email redacted) writes:


Why not flick the aircon controls so that it gets cool air from outside the
cabin and turn the fan on to blow cool air onto your feet and/or face.



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Mail From: the.jack (the.jack)

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of David
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

Ok, someone might as well state the obvious.
Why not flick the aircon controls so that it gets cool air from outside the cabin and turn the fan on to blow cool air onto your
feet and/or face.
That's achieving the same result without needing the aircon on.
- Dave.

-----Response-----

I'm with Rick here. Anytime I use the vents, with or without fan and at the lowest heat setting I still get warmed-over
air. Only when it gets colder out (like 40 on down) do I feel cold air, and if that's the temp out, I don't need to be cooled down
;) The heater core still circulates even when the heat knob is turned down, doesn't it? I think this would be the problem, but I
could certainly be wrong.
Neat side note: on my Ram van there's a foot switch on the left that flaps open a 6X6ish square vent which spits outside air
from the underside of the vehicle. Pretty neat if your feet are getting hot, but not if the ground is wet/raining :( Never saw
anything like that until that vehicle. Only on the driver's side I think, too.

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

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Mail From: laspozas (las pozas)

On 6/5/06, the.jack <(email redacted)> wrote:
>
> Neat side note: on my Ram van there's a foot switch on the left
> that flaps open a 6X6ish square vent which spits outside air
> from the underside of the vehicle. Pretty neat if your feet are getting
> hot, but not if the ground is wet/raining :( Never saw
> anything like that until that vehicle. Only on the driver's side I think,
> too.
>


My '78 F150 has a foot operated vent like you describe for both the
passenger and the driver. Very handy, but mine leaks so winter driving can
be a bit chilly ;)



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Mail From: kec (Ken C)

RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadgetEvidently you have not run anyplace that gets hot. The air coming thru the vent is hotter than that outside. OK if air is on, but otherwise no good.

Ken Cloud
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: 'Miata List'
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget


Ok, someone might as well state the obvious.

Why not flick the aircon controls so that it gets cool air from outside the cabin and turn the fan on to blow cool air onto your feet and/or face.

That's achieving the same result without needing the aircon on.

- Dave.



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Mail From: geokenuae (George Kenney)

I just ordered one. I was just telling the wife last week that I wish the
Miata had old fashoined swiveling vent windows (dating myself here) so I
could use them to redirect some air onto me. This product looks like it will
do the trick at a very resonable cost.
George
97 Red


On 6/5/06, gpangrac <(email redacted)> wrote:
>
> I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
> Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the scoop. It only sits
> ~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.
>
> Geoff
>
> On 6/5/2006 6:47:23 AM, Dennis Wynne ((email redacted)) wrote:
> I would think the drag of the scoop would hurt gas mileage at least as
> much as running the A/C, I would think.
> >
> > Dennis
> <snip>
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Mail From: jwr10 (Jim Wharton)

I've been trying to order one all weekend. Every time I put in my address
and hit "Next" I'm told there is nothing in my shopping cart. Did it from
work this AM and managed to get as far as entering my credit card info.
which was denied. Tried another card, same thing.



I'm starting to get paranoid now with two orders for the same part on denied
credit cards 'cause I know they're good & shouldn't have gotten denied.
Next thing y'know, I'll be auto-subscribed to some Miata mailing list or
something.



I'll try again in a bit; maybe they had probs with the website.





Jim Wharton

1996 Black & Tan "Roadie"



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From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of George Kenney
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:16 PM
To: gpangrac
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget



I just ordered one. I was just telling the wife last week that I wish the
Miata had old fashoined swiveling vent windows (dating myself here) so I
could use them to redirect some air onto me. This product looks like it will
do the trick at a very resonable cost.

George

97 Red



On 6/5/06, gpangrac <(email redacted)> wrote:

I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the scoop. It only sits
~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.

Geoff

On 6/5/2006 6:47:23 AM, Dennis Wynne ((email redacted)) wrote:
I would think the drag of the scoop would hurt gas mileage at least as
much as running the A/C, I would think.
>
> Dennis
<snip>


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Mail From: chad (Chad J. Douglas)

This item is designed and marketed by the guy who goes by the handle "BlackCherry04" on the Miataforum.

I would doubt there's anything shady, just a glitch in the website.

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]On Behalf Of Jim Wharton
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:22 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget



I've been trying to order one all weekend. Every time I put in my address and hit "Next" I'm told there is nothing in my shopping cart. Did it from work this AM and managed to get as far as entering my credit card info... which was denied. Tried another card, same thing.



I'm starting to get paranoid now with two orders for the same part on denied credit cards 'cause I know they're good & shouldn't have gotten denied. Next thing y'know, I'll be auto-subscribed to some Miata mailing list or something...



I'll try again in a bit; maybe they had probs with the website.





Jim Wharton

1996 Black & Tan "Roadie"




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From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf Of George Kenney
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:16 PM
To: gpangrac
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget



I just ordered one. I was just telling the wife last week that I wish the Miata had old fashoined swiveling vent windows (dating myself here) so I could use them to redirect some air onto me. This product looks like it will do the trick at a very resonable cost.

George

97 Red



On 6/5/06, gpangrac < (email redacted)> wrote:

I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the scoop. It only sits
~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.

Geoff

On 6/5/2006 6:47:23 AM, Dennis Wynne ( (email redacted)) wrote:
I would think the drag of the scoop would hurt gas mileage at least as
much as running the A/C, I would think.
>
> Dennis
<snip>


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Mail From: romad (Dennis B. Swaney)

At 10:09 PM +0800 6/5/06, David wrote:
Ok, someone might as well state the obvious.

Why not flick the aircon controls so that it gets cool air from
outside the cabin and turn the fan on to blow cool air onto your feet
and/or face.

That's achieving the same result without needing the aircon on.


Dave, you've obviously never been in the Central Valley of California
(not to mention the desert Southwest) in the summer; 90 to 100+
degree air is NOT cool! BTDTGT!
--

Miataly,
Dennis
---
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Oroville, California Team USAF
Founding Member, S.A.M.O.A. Team Flyin' Miata
Team California License Plate Blue Team Valentine 1
('90 VIN: 7028)

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Mail From: miata (David)

"Dave, you've obviously never been in the Central Valley of California (not
to mention the desert Southwest) in the summer; 90 to 100+ degree air is NOT
cool! BTDTGT!"



"Evidently you have not run anyplace that gets hot. The air coming thru the
vent is hotter than that outside. OK if air is on, but otherwise no good.
Ken Cloud"



Bahhh, you're both soft like a krispy kreeme (k?) donut hamburger :P



The highest Max Temperature in the city of Perth Western Australia the last
year was 44.5"C about 112"F in old speak.



Obviously living on the edge of the desert temperatures can climb higher on
cruises where we leave the city.



- Dave.











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Mail From: kec (Ken C)

RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadgetwhat is the url for the scoop. Cant find it with search.

Ken Cloud
----- Original Message -----
From: John Livingston
To: Jim Wharton ; (email redacted)
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget


Jim,


I just ordered one without a hiccup. I had the same card denied by amazon last weekend, although it went through on a second try, so maybe the credit card folks are having problems. Have you tried it at home, too?


John
'92 Sunburst


I've been trying to order one all weekend. Every time I put in my address and hit "Next" I'm told there is nothing in my shopping cart. Did it from work this AM and managed to get as far as entering my credit card infoS which was denied. Tried another card, same thing.

I'm starting to get paranoid now with two orders for the same part on denied credit cards 'cause I know they're good & shouldn't have gotten denied. Next thing y'know, I'll be auto-subscribed to some Miata mailing list or somethingS

I'll try again in a bit; maybe they had probs with the website.


Jim Wharton
1996 Black & Tan "Roadie"


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From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf Of George Kenney
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:16 PM
To: gpangrac
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

I just ordered one. I was just telling the wife last week that I wish the Miata had old fashoined swiveling vent windows (dating myself here) so I could use them to redirect some air onto me. This product looks like it will do the trick at a very resonable cost.
George
97 Red


On 6/5/06, gpangrac <(email redacted)> wrote:
I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the scoop. It only sits
~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.

Geoff

On 6/5/2006 6:47:23 AM, Dennis Wynne ((email redacted)) wrote:
I would think the drag of the scoop would hurt gas mileage at least as
much as running the A/C, I would think.
>
> Dennis
<snip>


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Mail From: miatajim (miatajim)

coolbreezescoop.com/servlet/StoreFront Jim





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Mail From: jwr10 (Jim Wharton)

I agree. As a Network Analyst my motto has always been something like,"
There is always the Human Element but if you REALLY need to get things
screwed up in a hurry, you gotta' have computers."



I will try again in a minute or two.





Jim Wharton

1996 Black & Tan "Roadie"



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From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of Chad J. Douglas
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:25 PM
To: Jim Wharton; (email redacted)
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget



This item is designed and marketed by the guy who goes by the handle
"BlackCherry04" on the Miataforum.



I would doubt there's anything shady, just a glitch in the website.

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]On Behalf
Of Jim Wharton
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 4:22 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

I've been trying to order one all weekend. Every time I put in my address
and hit "Next" I'm told there is nothing in my shopping cart. Did it from
work this AM and managed to get as far as entering my credit card info.
which was denied. Tried another card, same thing.



I'm starting to get paranoid now with two orders for the same part on denied
credit cards 'cause I know they're good & shouldn't have gotten denied.
Next thing y'know, I'll be auto-subscribed to some Miata mailing list or
something.



I'll try again in a bit; maybe they had probs with the website.





Jim Wharton

1996 Black & Tan "Roadie"




_____


From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of George Kenney
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:16 PM
To: gpangrac
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget



I just ordered one. I was just telling the wife last week that I wish the
Miata had old fashoined swiveling vent windows (dating myself here) so I
could use them to redirect some air onto me. This product looks like it will
do the trick at a very resonable cost.

George

97 Red



On 6/5/06, gpangrac <(email redacted)> wrote:

I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the scoop. It only sits
~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.

Geoff

On 6/5/2006 6:47:23 AM, Dennis Wynne ((email redacted)) wrote:
I would think the drag of the scoop would hurt gas mileage at least as
much as running the A/C, I would think.
>
> Dennis
<snip>


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Mail From: romad (Dennis B. Swaney)

At 5:50 AM +0800 6/6/06, David wrote:
"Dave, you've obviously never been in the Central Valley of
California (not to mention the desert Southwest) in the summer; 90 to
100+ degree air is NOT cool! BTDTGT!"

"Evidently you have not run anyplace that gets hot. The air coming
thru the vent is hotter than that outside. OK if air is on, but
otherwise no good. Ken Cloud"

Bahhh, you're both soft like a krispy kreeme (k?) donut hamburger :P

The highest Max Temperature in the city of Perth Western Australia
the last year was 44.5"C about 112"F in old speak.

Obviously living on the edge of the desert temperatures can climb
higher on cruises where we leave the city.

- Dave.

Well, I did work for two years at a place that was routinely reaching
120 degrees Fahrenheit (about 49 Celsius). The worst part was
starting out at a site that was 15 Celsius (or less with the wind
chill) factor, driving 5 - 10 minutes down the mountain to the valley
floor where it was already 38 Celsius and climbing. As soon as we got
to the valley floor, we'd pull over and strip off our heavy coats and
gloves! This was in the Mojave Deset, just south of Death Valley.

Also, I had to leave the hard top on my Miata for about a month since
I didn't have any place to store it. I was REAL toasty (toasted?) in
the car!
--

Miataly,
Dennis
---
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Oroville, California Team USAF
Founding Member, S.A.M.O.A. Team Flyin' Miata
Team California License Plate Blue Team Valentine 1
('90 VIN: 7028)

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Mail From: romad (Dennis B. Swaney)

At 5:54 PM -0400 6/5/06, John Livingston wrote:
Jim,

I just ordered one without a hiccup. I had the same card denied by
amazon last weekend, although it went through on a second try, so
maybe the credit card folks are having problems. Have you tried it at
home, too?


I just ordered one today and the card info went through without a
hitch. However, even though I clicked on the correct model, they had
to send me an email asking which model I wanted. I guess their
e-commerce software has a few bugs in it.
--

Miataly,
Dennis
---
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Oroville, California Team USAF
Founding Member, S.A.M.O.A. Team Flyin' Miata
Team California License Plate Blue Team Valentine 1
('90 VIN: 7028)

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Mail From: whthse_cars (Mike Whitehouse)

Hopefully they are not gone forever!

Michael Whitehouse
Cielo, 10AE # 511
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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget


> -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf of Geoff
> Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget
>
> I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the
> scoop. It only sits ~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are
many.
>
> Geoff
>
> -----Response-----
>
> Don't mention the Ubers... Brings a tear to my eye to think they're gone!
WAAAAAAH!!!
>
> Chris C.
> 99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald
>
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Mail From: ptb5star (Bob)

Okay I give ..... What's an Uber U3 ?
Bob

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From: the.jack
Date: 06/05/06 07:05:13
To: Miata List
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf of Geoff
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the
scoop. It only sits ~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.

Geoff

-----Response-----

Don't mention the Ubers... Brings a tear to my eye to think they're gone!
WAAAAAAH!!!

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald


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Mail From: whawn (Wayne Hawn)

Sometimes I love Alaska.

> The highest Max Temperature in the city of Perth Western Australia
> the last year was 44.5"C about 112"F in old speak.
>
> Obviously living on the edge of the desert temperatures can climb
> higher on cruises where we leave the city.
>
> - Dave.
>
> Well, I did work for two years at a place that was routinely reaching
> 120 degrees Fahrenheit (about 49 Celsius). The worst part was
> starting out at a site that was 15 Celsius (or less with the wind
> chill) factor, driving 5 - 10 minutes down the mountain to the valley
> floor where it was already 38 Celsius and climbing. As soon as we got
> to the valley floor, we'd pull over and strip off our heavy coats and
> gloves! This was in the Mojave Deset, just south of Death Valley.
>

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Mail From: Subhunter (Hank)

I just tried and had problems with his order site as well. Tried three
times and it was kicked each time.. This guy is loosing a hell of a lot of
business. Now watch I'll probably get three of the damn things!


Hank & the Scandalously Striped Silver '99
Curmudgeon Racing
Deep in the Heart of Dragon Country
Murphy, Nawth Carolina

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From: "Mike Whitehouse" <(email redacted)>
To: "the.jack" <(email redacted)>; "Miata List" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget


> Hopefully they are not gone forever!
>
> Michael Whitehouse
> Cielo, 10AE # 511
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "the.jack" <(email redacted)>
> To: "Miata List" <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:09 AM
> Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> On Behalf of Geoff
>> Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget
>>
>> I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last
> Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the
>> scoop. It only sits ~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are
> many.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> -----Response-----
>>
>> Don't mention the Ubers... Brings a tear to my eye to think they're
>> gone!
> WAAAAAAH!!!
>>
>> Chris C.
>> 99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald
>>
>>
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Mail From: whthse_cars (Mike Whitehouse)

I would love to link you to the FM site that describes it, but they took that piece down since they can't supply them right now. The Ubercharger is a cold side supercharger set up using a twin screw type 1.2 liter supercharger. It comes (came?) in various stages/configurations. The U1 was a basic supercharger and controls producing about 176 rwhp on a 99 Miata. The U2 was the same except with an intercooler and modified controls to produce about 212 rwhp on a 99 Miata. The U3 was the top end kit producing > 230 rwhp on a 95 Miata. With a 2.0 liter built engine the U3 produced 302 rwhp. All the rwhp numbers are from various dyno sheets on the FM site flyinmiata.com/tech/dyno.asp.

I drove the FM U3 last year and was very impressed. Some version of the Ubercharger was what I was saving my pennies up to buy. I am hoping that by the time I have enough pennies the Uberchargers or "Son of Ubercharger" will be back in the FM line up.


Hope this helps you.
Michael Whitehouse
Cielo, 10AE # 511
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From: Bob
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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget


Okay I give ..... What's an Uber U3 ?
Bob

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From: the.jack
Date: 06/05/06 07:05:13
To: Miata List
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf of Geoff
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

I averaged ~30mpg on my way down from Grand Junction to Tucson last Saturday. That's with a stroked Uber U3 & using the
scoop. It only sits ~1" over the top of the windscreen. Benefits are many.

Geoff

-----Response-----

Don't mention the Ubers... Brings a tear to my eye to think they're gone! WAAAAAAH!!!

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald


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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Whitehouse [mailto:(email redacted)]
Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget

<SNIP>I am hoping that by the time I have enough pennies the Uberchargers or "Son of Ubercharger" will be back in the FM line up.

Hope this helps you.
Michael Whitehouse
Cielo, 10AE # 511

-----Response-----

Me too! I'll be VERY sad if I finally have the cash and noone to give it to :(

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

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Mail From: whthse_cars (Mike Whitehouse)

It might temporarily please my wife, until I come up with a more expensive
plan!

Michael Whitehouse
Cielo, 10AE # 511
----- Original Message -----
From: "the.jack" <(email redacted)>
To: "Miata List" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: [Miata] This is a great little gadget


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Whitehouse [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Subject: Re: [Miata] This is a great little gadget
>
> <SNIP>I am hoping that by the time I have enough pennies the Uberchargers
or "Son of Ubercharger" will be back in the FM line up.
>
> Hope this helps you.
> Michael Whitehouse
> Cielo, 10AE # 511
>
> -----Response-----
>
> Me too! I'll be VERY sad if I finally have the cash and noone to give it
to :(
>
> Chris C.
> 99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald
>
>
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