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Mail From: eccles (Jon Etkins)

One day last week, Joi and I were out in her yellow '02. We approached
one particular intersection where part of the road was blocked off due
to overhead work on a light gantry, and two sheriff's deputies were
directing traffic.

We wanted to turn left and then immediately turn right into the gas
station just around the corner, so I took the right-hand of the two
left-turn lanes, and we waited patiently in the queue of traffic.

Eventually our stream of traffic was waved through, and we proceeded
slowly up to and through the intersection. I was travelling at the
same speed as everyone else in the queue -- maintaining a safe and
sensible distance from the car in front, no excess revs, no tire squeal
-- yet as we made the turn directly in front of the deputy, he leant
over towards our car and yelled "slow down!"

Go figure.

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Mail From: miata (Jeff Gehrig)

He obviously wanted a better look at the car Jon!

Jeff Gehrig
Life Member
MX-5 Club of N.S.W.


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From: "Jon Etkins" <(email redacted)>
To: "Miata mailing list" <(email redacted)>; "Miata Outlaws"
<(email redacted)>; "Tejas Miatas" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 1:23 AM
Subject: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car


One day last week, Joi and I were out in her yellow '02. We approached
one particular intersection where part of the road was blocked off due
to overhead work on a light gantry, and two sheriff's deputies were
directing traffic.

We wanted to turn left and then immediately turn right into the gas
station just around the corner, so I took the right-hand of the two
left-turn lanes, and we waited patiently in the queue of traffic.

Eventually our stream of traffic was waved through, and we proceeded
slowly up to and through the intersection. I was travelling at the
same speed as everyone else in the queue -- maintaining a safe and
sensible distance from the car in front, no excess revs, no tire squeal
-- yet as we made the turn directly in front of the deputy, he leant
over towards our car and yelled "slow down!"

Go figure.


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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine. The
people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding when
I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I drive a
sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Etkins" <(email redacted)>
To: "Miata mailing list" <(email redacted)>; "Miata Outlaws"
<(email redacted)>; "Tejas Miatas" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car


> One day last week, Joi and I were out in her yellow '02. We approached
> one particular intersection where part of the road was blocked off due
> to overhead work on a light gantry, and two sheriff's deputies were
> directing traffic.
>
> We wanted to turn left and then immediately turn right into the gas
> station just around the corner, so I took the right-hand of the two
> left-turn lanes, and we waited patiently in the queue of traffic.
>
> Eventually our stream of traffic was waved through, and we proceeded
> slowly up to and through the intersection. I was travelling at the
> same speed as everyone else in the queue -- maintaining a safe and
> sensible distance from the car in front, no excess revs, no tire squeal
> -- yet as we made the turn directly in front of the deputy, he leant
> over towards our car and yelled "slow down!"
>
> Go figure.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: berck (Berck E. Nash)

Larry Alster wrote:
> I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine. The
> people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
> discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding when
> I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I drive a
> sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.

Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
maybe not them ost mature response....

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Mail From: gpangrac (Geoffrey Pangrac)

Berck: I like the way you think...but you forgot to disconnect the
mid-pipe from the header & (if your smog gear will allow it) backoff the
accelerator so the engine will do a little backfire action. ;{)> Geoff

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From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of Berck E. Nash
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:51 PM
To: Larry Alster
Cc: Miata mailing list
Subject: Re: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car


Larry Alster wrote:
> I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine.

> The people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got
> into a discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was
> speeding when I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time
> but because I drive a sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.

Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
maybe not them ost mature response....

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Mail From: phredd1 (Phredd)

On 10/26/03 10:23 AM, Jon Etkins said:

>
> Eventually our stream of traffic was waved through, and we proceeded
> slowly up to and through the intersection. I was travelling at the
> same speed as everyone else in the queue -- maintaining a safe and
> sensible distance from the car in front, no excess revs, no tire squeal
> -- yet as we made the turn directly in front of the deputy, he leant
> over towards our car and yelled "slow down!"
>
> Go figure.
>
+++ Jealousy.

Keep the Revs up!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Under Condition Redd!

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Mail From: tblough (Tom Blough)

I have the same problem in my neighborhood. Just last week they got the
police to place their little speed trailer on the block. Now I'm kinda glad
they did - I didn't realize that I was going below the speed limit!

I'm much more aware of my speed now and make sure I'm using every bit I'm
entitled to under the law.


Tom Blough &
"Molly" Red '99 LP
Avon, CT

"Driver does not carry cash - He's married"
FYI, Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR




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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 7:16 PM
To: Jon Etkins; Miata mailing list; Miata Outlaws; Tejas Miatas
Subject: Re: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car


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I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine. The
people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding when
I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I drive a
sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Etkins" <(email redacted)>
To: "Miata mailing list" <(email redacted)>; "Miata Outlaws"
<(email redacted)>; "Tejas Miatas" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car


> One day last week, Joi and I were out in her yellow '02. We approached
> one particular intersection where part of the road was blocked off due
> to overhead work on a light gantry, and two sheriff's deputies were
> directing traffic.
>
> We wanted to turn left and then immediately turn right into the gas
> station just around the corner, so I took the right-hand of the two
> left-turn lanes, and we waited patiently in the queue of traffic.
>
> Eventually our stream of traffic was waved through, and we proceeded
> slowly up to and through the intersection. I was travelling at the
> same speed as everyone else in the queue -- maintaining a safe and
> sensible distance from the car in front, no excess revs, no tire squeal
> -- yet as we made the turn directly in front of the deputy, he leant
> over towards our car and yelled "slow down!"
>
> Go figure.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: nora.hague (Nora Hague)

Envy.

:D

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From: "Jon Etkins" <(email redacted)>
To: "Miata mailing list" <(email redacted)>; "Miata Outlaws"
<(email redacted)>; "Tejas Miatas" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car


>
> Eventually our stream of traffic was waved through, and we proceeded
> slowly up to and through the intersection. I was travelling at the
> same speed as everyone else in the queue -- maintaining a safe and
> sensible distance from the car in front, no excess revs, no tire squeal
> -- yet as we made the turn directly in front of the deputy, he leant
> over towards our car and yelled "slow down!"
>
> Go figure.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: bigmouthjohn ((email redacted))

You may remember I posted a similar issue a year or so ago. One of my neighbors actually came to my door & told me that "they were watching me!" and that I'd better slow down because there are kids playing. I pointed out that my car may make a lot of noise (Supertrapp!) but I DO NOT speed in our neighborhood. There was no convincing him. Then I pissed him off & said that there would be no worry of me running down his children as long as he keeps them out of the street, because I promise not to drive on his lawn! All this because I own a cool sportscar (and he has a minivan...poor bastard)

--
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Creative Services Director
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> Larry Alster wrote:
> > I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine. The
> > people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
> > discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding when
> > I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I drive a
> > sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.
>
> Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
> on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
> maybe not them ost mature response....
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: kcmurphy72 (Murph)

--- (email redacted) wrote:
> You may remember I posted a similar issue a year or so ago. One of my
> neighbors actually came to my door & told me that "they were watching me!"
> and that I'd better slow down because there are kids playing. I pointed
> out that my car may make a lot of noise (Supertrapp!) but I DO NOT speed in
> our neighborhood. There was no convincing him.

The solution here is wait until he's behind you and idle along in first
gear... Hey, he wanted you to go slow!

=====
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Mail From: m7powers (Michael Powers)

John,

LOL!! That's a funny comment. You are Da Man! I think if somebody said
that to me, having some "kids" myself, I would probably knock some teeth out
right there and take the jail time, because jail time aint so bad compared
to the satisfaction it would bring. You make a poor ambassador for our
sport when you say things like that. "Cool sportscar" - ? Last I looked it
was just a Miata, a cheap entry level sports car and not worth threatening
the lives of our children.

Let's summarize this thread so far... Small sports car... Bright colors...
Sporty driving... Loud exhausts... Threats to keep the kids safe as long as
they stay out of the street.... Complaints from neighbors... Complaints from
traffic officers...

It's clear, everybody else is completely nuts and you guys are just OK.
Getting the attention you want? Then maybe it's time to dial it back a
little.




"On 10/27/03 9:08 AM, "(email redacted)" <(email redacted)>
blurbed:

> You may remember I posted a similar issue a year or so ago. One of my
> neighbors actually came to my door & told me that "they were watching me!" and
> that I'd better slow down because there are kids playing. I pointed out that
> my car may make a lot of noise (Supertrapp!) but I DO NOT speed in our
> neighborhood. There was no convincing him. Then I pissed him off & said that
> there would be no worry of me running down his children as long as he keeps
> them out of the street, because I promise not to drive on his lawn! All this
> because I own a cool sportscar (and he has a minivan...poor bastard)
>
> --
> John Hammer
> JohnHammer.org
>
> Multimedia Host
> AutoRacing1.com
>
> Creative Services Director
> Cumulus Broadcasting, Kalamazoo MI
>> Larry Alster wrote:
>>> I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine. The
>>> people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
>>> discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding when
>>> I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I drive a
>>> sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.
>>
>> Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
>> on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
>> maybe not them ost mature response....
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: tblough (Tom Blough)

Is there some genetic changes that occur when you have kids that all the
sudden make you think you are better than everyone else? Why should John
have to "dial it back a
little" even though he is well within his rights to drive the speed limit?

So, the Miata is just a cheap entry level sports car. An yet driving one is
a "sport"? Ever stop to think that parents who can't control their children
make poor ambassadors as well? John's point was the street is not a
playground. If you are unable to control your children, we'll do our best
to do your job for you, but the safest course of action is NOT to let them
play in the street.

Too bad procreation is not licensed.


Tom Blough &
"Molly" Red '99 LP
Avon, CT

"Driver does not carry cash - He's married"
FYI, Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR




-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Powers [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:49 AM
To: (email redacted); Miata mailing list
Subject: Re: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car



John,

LOL!! That's a funny comment. You are Da Man! I think if somebody said
that to me, having some "kids" myself, I would probably knock some teeth out
right there and take the jail time, because jail time aint so bad compared
to the satisfaction it would bring. You make a poor ambassador for our
sport when you say things like that. "Cool sportscar" - ? Last I looked it
was just a Miata, a cheap entry level sports car and not worth threatening
the lives of our children.

Let's summarize this thread so far... Small sports car... Bright colors...
Sporty driving... Loud exhausts... Threats to keep the kids safe as long as
they stay out of the street.... Complaints from neighbors... Complaints from
traffic officers...

It's clear, everybody else is completely nuts and you guys are just OK.
Getting the attention you want? Then maybe it's time to dial it back a
little.




"On 10/27/03 9:08 AM, "(email redacted)" <(email redacted)>
blurbed:

> You may remember I posted a similar issue a year or so ago. One of my
> neighbors actually came to my door & told me that "they were watching me!"
and
> that I'd better slow down because there are kids playing. I pointed out
that
> my car may make a lot of noise (Supertrapp!) but I DO NOT speed in our
> neighborhood. There was no convincing him. Then I pissed him off & said
that
> there would be no worry of me running down his children as long as he
keeps
> them out of the street, because I promise not to drive on his lawn! All
this
> because I own a cool sportscar (and he has a minivan...poor bastard)
>
> --
> John Hammer
> JohnHammer.org
>
> Multimedia Host
> AutoRacing1.com
>
> Creative Services Director
> Cumulus Broadcasting, Kalamazoo MI
>> Larry Alster wrote:
>>> I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine.
The
>>> people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
>>> discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding
when
>>> I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I
drive a
>>> sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.
>>
>> Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
>> on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
>> maybe not them ost mature response....
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
> _______________________________________________
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> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: bryanewyatt (Bryan Wyatt)

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I could share a couple stories about how many sideways glances I get when I walk into a bank, store, etc. but I think you'd get bored (I'm a 22 year old black male, in case anyone wants to know). Point is, taking so much of people's backhanded predjudices does make one rather bitter. From time to time, you might lash out like John.

Doesn't make either side right. Just sucks that people can be so illogical sometimes.

Bryan
-The Last Bastion of Unadulterated Male Bachelorhood in Northern Kentucky

Tom Blough <(email redacted)> wrote:
Is there some genetic changes that occur when you have kids that all the
sudden make you think you are better than everyone else? Why should John
have to "dial it back a
little" even though he is well within his rights to drive the speed limit?

So, the Miata is just a cheap entry level sports car. An yet driving one is
a "sport"? Ever stop to think that parents who can't control their children
make poor ambassadors as well? John's point was the street is not a
playground. If you are unable to control your children, we'll do our best
to do your job for you, but the safest course of action is NOT to let them
play in the street.

Too bad procreation is not licensed.


Tom Blough &
"Molly" Red '99 LP
Avon, CT

"Driver does not carry cash - He's married"
FYI, Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR




-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Powers [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:49 AM
To: (email redacted); Miata mailing list
Subject: Re: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car



John,

LOL!! That's a funny comment. You are Da Man! I think if somebody said
that to me, having some "kids" myself, I would probably knock some teeth out
right there and take the jail time, because jail time aint so bad compared
to the satisfaction it would bring. You make a poor ambassador for our
sport when you say things like that. "Cool sportscar" - ? Last I looked it
was just a Miata, a cheap entry level sports car and not worth threatening
the lives of our children.

Let's summarize this thread so far... Small sports car... Bright colors...
Sporty driving... Loud exhausts... Threats to keep the kids safe as long as
they stay out of the street.... Complaints from neighbors... Complaints from
traffic officers...

It's clear, everybody else is completely nuts and you guys are just OK.
Getting the attention you want? Then maybe it's time to dial it back a
little.




"On 10/27/03 9:08 AM, "(email redacted)"
blurbed:

> You may remember I posted a similar issue a year or so ago. One of my
> neighbors actually came to my door & told me that "they were watching me!"
and
> that I'd better slow down because there are kids playing. I pointed out
that
> my car may make a lot of noise (Supertrapp!) but I DO NOT speed in our
> neighborhood. There was no convincing him. Then I pissed him off & said
that
> there would be no worry of me running down his children as long as he
keeps
> them out of the street, because I promise not to drive on his lawn! All
this
> because I own a cool sportscar (and he has a minivan...poor bastard)
>
> --
> John Hammer
> JohnHammer.org
>
> Multimedia Host
> AutoRacing1.com
>
> Creative Services Director
> Cumulus Broadcasting, Kalamazoo MI
>> Larry Alster wrote:
>>> I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine.
The
>>> people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
>>> discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding
when
>>> I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I
drive a
>>> sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.
>>
>> Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
>> on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
>> maybe not them ost mature response....
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
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Mail From: tofoo (Aram Kim)

Ignorance breeds fear... or was it contempt?

I used to have an MR2 that had an exhaust. While I drove it around town
at speed-limit, the people jogging by the side of the road will turn
around and yell at me to slow down. It's absurd.

Aram

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Bryan Wyatt wrote:

> [this was a MIME-encoded message - it has been]
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>
>
> I could share a couple stories about how many sideways glances I get when I walk into a bank, store, etc. but I think you'd get bored (I'm a 22 year old black male, in case anyone wants to know). Point is, taking so much of people's backhanded predjudices does make one rather bitter. From time to time, you might lash out like John.
>
> Doesn't make either side right. Just sucks that people can be so illogical sometimes.
>
> Bryan
> -The Last Bastion of Unadulterated Male Bachelorhood in Northern Kentucky
>
> Tom Blough <(email redacted)> wrote:
> Is there some genetic changes that occur when you have kids that all the
> sudden make you think you are better than everyone else? Why should John
> have to "dial it back a
> little" even though he is well within his rights to drive the speed limit?
>
> So, the Miata is just a cheap entry level sports car. An yet driving one is
> a "sport"? Ever stop to think that parents who can't control their children
> make poor ambassadors as well? John's point was the street is not a
> playground. If you are unable to control your children, we'll do our best
> to do your job for you, but the safest course of action is NOT to let them
> play in the street.
>
> Too bad procreation is not licensed.
>
>
> Tom Blough &
> "Molly" Red '99 LP
> Avon, CT
>
> "Driver does not carry cash - He's married"
> FYI, Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Powers [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:49 AM
> To: (email redacted); Miata mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car
>
>
>
> John,
>
> LOL!! That's a funny comment. You are Da Man! I think if somebody said
> that to me, having some "kids" myself, I would probably knock some teeth out
> right there and take the jail time, because jail time aint so bad compared
> to the satisfaction it would bring. You make a poor ambassador for our
> sport when you say things like that. "Cool sportscar" - ? Last I looked it
> was just a Miata, a cheap entry level sports car and not worth threatening
> the lives of our children.
>
> Let's summarize this thread so far... Small sports car... Bright colors...
> Sporty driving... Loud exhausts... Threats to keep the kids safe as long as
> they stay out of the street.... Complaints from neighbors... Complaints from
> traffic officers...
>
> It's clear, everybody else is completely nuts and you guys are just OK.
> Getting the attention you want? Then maybe it's time to dial it back a
> little.
>
>
>
>
> "On 10/27/03 9:08 AM, "(email redacted)"
> blurbed:
>
> > You may remember I posted a similar issue a year or so ago. One of my
> > neighbors actually came to my door & told me that "they were watching me!"
> and
> > that I'd better slow down because there are kids playing. I pointed out
> that
> > my car may make a lot of noise (Supertrapp!) but I DO NOT speed in our
> > neighborhood. There was no convincing him. Then I pissed him off & said
> that
> > there would be no worry of me running down his children as long as he
> keeps
> > them out of the street, because I promise not to drive on his lawn! All
> this
> > because I own a cool sportscar (and he has a minivan...poor bastard)
> >
> > --
> > John Hammer
> > JohnHammer.org
> >
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> >> Larry Alster wrote:
> >>> I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine.
> The
> >>> people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
> >>> discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding
> when
> >>> I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I
> drive a
> >>> sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.
> >>
> >> Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
> >> on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
> >> maybe not them ost mature response....
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Mail From: nora.hague (Nora Hague)

Absolutely! Couldn't agree more.

Patents around here are training their offspring to play in the street
(without posting lookouts as we used to do), and to avoid sidewalks whenever
possible so as to walk in the middle of the road.

I came up on a group of pre-teens using a plywood skateboard ramp, in the
middle of my tax-paid street. I slowed and pointed out to them that they'd
better move the ramp as my Rollerskate was considerably heavier than a
skateboard. They were in no mind to do so.
I crept up to the ramp.
They became concerned.
I rolled onto the ramp and squashed it.
And moved on.

The next time, they'd repaired the ramp and posted itty-bitty cones to block
my tax-paid road. I squashed one cone and moved in (slowly) on the ramp.
They moved it.

Parent licenses. We need parenting licenses.

Nora (imagine a Canadian flag here)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Blough" <(email redacted)>
To: "Michael Powers" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>;
"Miata mailing list" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car


> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Is there some genetic changes that occur when you have kids that all the
> sudden make you think you are better than everyone else? Why should John
> have to "dial it back a
> little" even though he is well within his rights to drive the speed limit?
>
> So, the Miata is just a cheap entry level sports car. An yet driving one
is
> a "sport"? Ever stop to think that parents who can't control their
children
> make poor ambassadors as well? John's point was the street is not a
> playground. If you are unable to control your children, we'll do our best
> to do your job for you, but the safest course of action is NOT to let them
> play in the street.
>
> Too bad procreation is not licensed.
>
>
> Tom Blough &
> "Molly" Red '99 LP
> Avon, CT
>
> "Driver does not carry cash - He's married"
> FYI, Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR

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Mail From: m7powers (Michael Powers)

Dum-dums aren't going to know the difference between an open exhaust at part
throttle and a stock exhaust being driven all-out. I think it's a natural
response for the 80th percentile man.


On 10/27/03 10:43 AM, "Aram Kim" <(email redacted)> blurbed:

> Ignorance breeds fear... or was it contempt?
>
> I used to have an MR2 that had an exhaust. While I drove it around town
> at speed-limit, the people jogging by the side of the road will turn
> around and yell at me to slow down. It's absurd.
>
> Aram
>
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Bryan Wyatt wrote:

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You're missing the point Mike,

It's the PERCEPTION of agression that caused these incidents, not ACUTAL agression.

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>
> John,
>
> LOL!! That's a funny comment. You are Da Man! I think if somebody said
> that to me, having some "kids" myself, I would probably knock some teeth out
> right there and take the jail time, because jail time aint so bad compared
> to the satisfaction it would bring. You make a poor ambassador for our
> sport when you say things like that. "Cool sportscar" - ? Last I looked it
> was just a Miata, a cheap entry level sports car and not worth threatening
> the lives of our children.
>
> Let's summarize this thread so far... Small sports car... Bright colors...
> Sporty driving... Loud exhausts... Threats to keep the kids safe as long as
> they stay out of the street.... Complaints from neighbors... Complaints from
> traffic officers...
>
> It's clear, everybody else is completely nuts and you guys are just OK.
> Getting the attention you want? Then maybe it's time to dial it back a
> little.
>
>
>
>
> "On 10/27/03 9:08 AM, "(email redacted)" <(email redacted)>
> blurbed:
>
> > You may remember I posted a similar issue a year or so ago. One of my
> > neighbors actually came to my door & told me that "they were watching me!" and
> > that I'd better slow down because there are kids playing. I pointed out that
> > my car may make a lot of noise (Supertrapp!) but I DO NOT speed in our
> > neighborhood. There was no convincing him. Then I pissed him off & said that
> > there would be no worry of me running down his children as long as he keeps
> > them out of the street, because I promise not to drive on his lawn! All this
> > because I own a cool sportscar (and he has a minivan...poor bastard)
> >
> > --
> > John Hammer
> > JohnHammer.org
> >
> > Multimedia Host
> > AutoRacing1.com
> >
> > Creative Services Director
> > Cumulus Broadcasting, Kalamazoo MI
> >> Larry Alster wrote:
> >>> I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine. The
> >>> people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
> >>> discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding when
> >>> I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I drive a
> >>> sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.
> >>
> >> Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
> >> on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
> >> maybe not them ost mature response....
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Miata mailing list
> >> (email redacted)
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Exactly Tom!

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> Is there some genetic changes that occur when you have kids that all the
> sudden make you think you are better than everyone else? Why should John
> have to "dial it back a
> little" even though he is well within his rights to drive the speed limit?
>
> So, the Miata is just a cheap entry level sports car. An yet driving one is
> a "sport"? Ever stop to think that parents who can't control their children
> make poor ambassadors as well? John's point was the street is not a
> playground. If you are unable to control your children, we'll do our best
> to do your job for you, but the safest course of action is NOT to let them
> play in the street.
>
> Too bad procreation is not licensed.
>
>
> Tom Blough &
> "Molly" Red '99 LP
> Avon, CT
>
> "Driver does not carry cash - He's married"
> FYI, Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Powers [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 10:49 AM
> To: (email redacted); Miata mailing list
> Subject: Re: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car
>
>
>
> John,
>
> LOL!! That's a funny comment. You are Da Man! I think if somebody said
> that to me, having some "kids" myself, I would probably knock some teeth out
> right there and take the jail time, because jail time aint so bad compared
> to the satisfaction it would bring. You make a poor ambassador for our
> sport when you say things like that. "Cool sportscar" - ? Last I looked it
> was just a Miata, a cheap entry level sports car and not worth threatening
> the lives of our children.
>
> Let's summarize this thread so far... Small sports car... Bright colors...
> Sporty driving... Loud exhausts... Threats to keep the kids safe as long as
> they stay out of the street.... Complaints from neighbors... Complaints from
> traffic officers...
>
> It's clear, everybody else is completely nuts and you guys are just OK.
> Getting the attention you want? Then maybe it's time to dial it back a
> little.
>
>
>
>
> "On 10/27/03 9:08 AM, "(email redacted)" <(email redacted)>
> blurbed:
>
> > You may remember I posted a similar issue a year or so ago. One of my
> > neighbors actually came to my door & told me that "they were watching me!"
> and
> > that I'd better slow down because there are kids playing. I pointed out
> that
> > my car may make a lot of noise (Supertrapp!) but I DO NOT speed in our
> > neighborhood. There was no convincing him. Then I pissed him off & said
> that
> > there would be no worry of me running down his children as long as he
> keeps
> > them out of the street, because I promise not to drive on his lawn! All
> this
> > because I own a cool sportscar (and he has a minivan...poor bastard)
> >
> > --
> > John Hammer
> > JohnHammer.org
> >
> > Multimedia Host
> > AutoRacing1.com
> >
> > Creative Services Director
> > Cumulus Broadcasting, Kalamazoo MI
> >> Larry Alster wrote:
> >>> I have the same problem driving through the subdivision next to mine.
> The
> >>> people outside on lawns will scream at me as I go through. Got into a
> >>> discussion with one of them once asking why they ASSUMED I was speeding
> when
> >>> I went past his house. I was doing 20-25 at the time but because I
> drive a
> >>> sportscar convertible I must have been speeding.
> >>
> >> Best response to this is to drive in first gear at 30mph while leaning
> >> on the air horns as you pass his house for the next month.... Okay,
> >> maybe not them ost mature response....
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Miata mailing list
> >> (email redacted)
> >> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
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> From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]On Behalf
> Of Aram Kim

> Ignorance breeds fear... or was it contempt?

Best as I can see around my part of town, ignorance just breeds.

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OH WOW, Nora!

That is one of the funniest things I've heard all day.

Glad you got away with it.

Some parent might actually sue you for it, tho...but I applaud you for it. A lot of the kids I see today (I was one more recently than probably everyone here) have no respect for anything or anyone that tells them what to do.

Quite frankly, it ain't the music, cause I grew up with the Beastie Boys screaming "Fight For your Right to Party, Dee Snider and company screaming "We're Not Going to Take It," and David Hasselhoff singing on top of the ruins of the Berlin Wall in a leather jacket with Christmas lights on it. (By the way, if anyone can remember what those lights spelled, out, I'd love to hear it). Point is, at least people making music back then were trying to talk about something. Most of the young bands today are followed by kids who have twice the allowance I had (yes, I had an allowance...), drive better cars, and have cooler stuff to play with. Seems their ilk are what we would refer to as "spoiled brats"

I don't know...maybe I just inserted my foot in my mouth. Point is, I don't remember being so insubordinate when I was some of their ages. True, I may have spouted off under my breath, but, quite frankly, I wasn't dumb enough to stare down a car like I owned the place. (Truth be told, I ran cross country in high school, and spent four years dodging cars rather than facing them down).

OK...enough of the old guy "get the hell off my lawn" speech...I'm too young to be doing this...

Bryan

Bryan

Nora Hague <(email redacted)> wrote:
Absolutely! Couldn't agree more.

Patents around here are training their offspring to play in the street
(without posting lookouts as we used to do), and to avoid sidewalks whenever
possible so as to walk in the middle of the road.

I came up on a group of pre-teens using a plywood skateboard ramp, in the
middle of my tax-paid street. I slowed and pointed out to them that they'd
better move the ramp as my Rollerskate was considerably heavier than a
skateboard. They were in no mind to do so.
I crept up to the ramp.
They became concerned.
I rolled onto the ramp and squashed it.
And moved on.

The next time, they'd repaired the ramp and posted itty-bitty cones to block
my tax-paid road. I squashed one cone and moved in (slowly) on the ramp.
They moved it.

Parent licenses. We need parenting licenses.

Nora (imagine a Canadian flag here)
========================
and the Rollerskate (imagine a '99 gleaming silver Miata here)

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hobbystage.net/miata/nora/ Rollerskate
nheh.ca/FFFR/FFFR4/FFFR4main.htm FFFR 4 pix
nheh.ca/RATG/2003/RATG3.htm RATG III pix
nheh.ca/SBFR/2003/03sbfr.htm NH Spring Run

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Blough"
To: "Michael Powers" ; ;
"Miata mailing list"
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car


> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Is there some genetic changes that occur when you have kids that all the
> sudden make you think you are better than everyone else? Why should John
> have to "dial it back a
> little" even though he is well within his rights to drive the speed limit?
>
> So, the Miata is just a cheap entry level sports car. An yet driving one
is
> a "sport"? Ever stop to think that parents who can't control their
children
> make poor ambassadors as well? John's point was the street is not a
> playground. If you are unable to control your children, we'll do our best
> to do your job for you, but the safest course of action is NOT to let them
> play in the street.
>
> Too bad procreation is not licensed.
>
>
> Tom Blough &
> "Molly" Red '99 LP
> Avon, CT
>
> "Driver does not carry cash - He's married"
> FYI, Racecar spelled backwards is racecaR

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Bryan Wyatt wrote:
> Most of the young bands today are followed by kids who
> have twice the allowance I had (yes, I had an allowance...),
> drive better cars, and have cooler stuff to play with. Seems
> their ilk are what we would refer to as "spoiled brats"

Wow! And you're only 22? Wait until you get old and grey.
"Why those young whippersnappers. When I was a boy, I
had to walk to school. In the snow. With no boots. Uphill
both ways."

Kent, er.... not 22

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>Some parent might actually sue you for it, tho...but I applaud you for it.

No, she lives in Canada. Even better, she lives in Quebec!

As for the "kids today..." complaints. That particular refrain has been
sung for generations.

Keith

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I also had to bring my own log for the fireplace.

rick-also...not 22

In a message dated 10/27/03 1:14:23 PM Central Standard Time,
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When I was a boy, I
had to walk to school. In the snow. With no boots. Uphill
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Allowance!!! Why we had to go to work every morning at 8:00 AM, a half hour before we went to bed, work in the mill 36 hours a day, week in and week out, and when we got home, our dad would kill us and dance about on our graves shouting hallelujah. You tell people this nowadays, and they don't believe you!
Bob.

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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Miata mailing list
Subject: Re: [Miata] The psychology of the little yellow sports car

charset="iso-8859-1"

Bryan Wyatt wrote:
> Most of the young bands today are followed by kids who
> have twice the allowance I had (yes, I had an allowance...),
> drive better cars, and have cooler stuff to play with. Seems
> their ilk are what we would refer to as "spoiled brats"

Wow! And you're only 22? Wait until you get old and grey.
"Why those young whippersnappers. When I was a boy, I
had to walk to school. In the snow. With no boots. Uphill
both ways."

Kent, er.... not 22


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Truth be told, Kent,

I think there is a difference between the pre 2000 kids and the post 2000 kids (ie due to graduate from high school).

Maybe I just don't have the great hindsight of more years to tell me this yet. It's just something I've noticed. Another example is that for some reason, the kids seem to be getting bigger at a younger age. I mean, when I ran cross country, the average kid was 5'6"-5'8" maybe 150 wet. I was 6'0" and 155-165 dry. But now these kids just look bigger and faster than I ever was.

Eh. I'm still smarter than they are any day of the week.

Bryan

Kent McLean <(email redacted)> wrote:
Bryan Wyatt wrote:
> Most of the young bands today are followed by kids who
> have twice the allowance I had (yes, I had an allowance...),
> drive better cars, and have cooler stuff to play with. Seems
> their ilk are what we would refer to as "spoiled brats"

Wow! And you're only 22? Wait until you get old and grey.
"Why those young whippersnappers. When I was a boy, I
had to walk to school. In the snow. With no boots. Uphill
both ways."

Kent, er.... not 22


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Perhaps it has.

Sorry for bringing up old news...

I'm finding a lot of things out for the first time now that I'm "grown up."

Bryan
-The guy who watches Cartoon Network religiously and recently assembled a 4,000 piece Formula 1 car made out of Legos

Keith Tanner <(email redacted)> wrote:
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sung for generations.


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Perhaps it has.

Sorry for bringing up old news...

I'm finding a lot of things out for the first time now that I'm "grown up."

Bryan
-The guy who watches Cartoon Network religiously and recently assembled a 4,000 piece Formula 1 car made out of Legos

Keith Tanner <(email redacted)> wrote:
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Well,

>From the experience of having a little brother who graduated in it (I was in '99), most of the kids were OK.

Some of them needed something to happen to scare them straight, but, after that, most of them are pretty good people.

I'm not saying I was born perfect by any means, but...there just seems to be a lack of fear amongst some people that just wasn't as widespread as it once was.

If ya'll think I'm just blowing hot air, by all means say so. I did grow up under a rock (rather, in a library).

Bryan

Monica Harrison <(email redacted)> wrote:
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> Truth be told, Kent,
>
> I think there is a difference between the pre 2000 kids and the post 2000 kids (ie due to graduate from high school).
>

And what about the graduating class of 2000?

Monica
>


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I think the Generation Gap can be traced back to when Lego's started to ship
with Specialied pieces that couldn't be used for anything else.

Actually, as a Cold War kid, who used to wonder when those crazy commies
would drop the bomb, I wonder what the kids of this Brave New World
(terrorism, censorship, Homeland security) will have to think when they're
older.


Sang - 30year old fart

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>
> Perhaps it has.
>
> Sorry for bringing up old news...
>
> I'm finding a lot of things out for the first time now that I'm "grown
up."
>
> Bryan
> -The guy who watches Cartoon Network religiously and recently assembled a
4,000 piece Formula 1 car made out of Legos
>
> Keith Tanner <(email redacted)> wrote:
> As for the "kids today..." complaints. That particular refrain has been
> sung for generations.
>
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:48:41 -0600, Michael Powers wrote:

>Let's summarize this thread so far... Small sports car... Bright colors...
>Sporty driving... Loud exhausts... Complaints from traffic officers...
>
>It's clear, everybody else is completely nuts and you guys are just OK.
>Getting the attention you want? Then maybe it's time to dial it back a
>little.

Which part of the following paragraph are you having trouble with?

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:23:52 -0500, Jon Etkins wrote:

>Eventually our stream of traffic was waved through, and we proceeded
>slowly up to and through the intersection. I was travelling at the
>same speed as everyone else in the queue -- maintaining a safe and
>sensible distance from the car in front, no excess revs, no tire squeal
>-- yet as we made the turn directly in front of the deputy, he leant
>over towards our car and yelled "slow down!"

Our car is BONE STOCK and was being driven in exactly the same manner
as the vehicles in front, behind, and alongside. If PC Plod had had
his back to us, there would have been absolutely nothing to draw his
attention, yet somehow when he saw this little yellow car he decided it
was worthy of a gratuitous warning to proceed more slowly.

By your reasoning, in order to have avoided the attention of said
Constable I should have been driving /slower/ than the prevailing
traffic. Methinks that would have attracted /more/ attention due to
the queue of traffic building up behind. Seems we just can't win
sometimes.