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Mail From: "Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)>

Wow, what rat dogs at Valvoline! I hope they come to their senses...there
was nothing anywhere that even said members only or whatever.

Heck, I'll return it.


Ross Kuhns

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Mail From: "Michael Hagerla" <(email redacted)>

That's a bunch of BS. My bet is they won't risk dealing with 10's of
thousands of fraud cases - they will probably be forced to honor the rebates
to those of us that have the printed vouchers. I am gonna wait in the wings
for now...

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:36 PM
To: Ross Kuhns
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...


That sucks.. Almost opened them tonight, it goes back tomorrow.. Scumbags.

Wallyman


-----"Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)> wrote: -----

To: (email redacted), (email redacted)
From: "Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)>
Date: 05/21/2004 07:11PM
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...

Wow, what rat dogs at Valvoline! I hope they come to their senses...there
was nothing anywhere that even said members only or whatever.

Heck, I'll return it.


Ross Kuhns

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Mail From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>

I already mailed mine so I'll see what happens.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Michael Hagerla=20
To: (email redacted)=20
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 12:23 AM
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...


That's a bunch of BS. My bet is they won't risk dealing with 10's of tho=
usands of fraud cases - they will probably be forced to honor the rebates t=
o those of us that have the printed vouchers. I am gonna wait in the wings=
for now...

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:36 PM
To: Ross Kuhns
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...


That sucks.. Almost opened them tonight, it goes back tomorrow.. Scumba=
gs.

Wallyman

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-----"Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)> wrote: -----

To: (email redacted), (email redacted)
From: "Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)>
Date: 05/21/2004 07:11PM
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...

Wow, what rat dogs at Valvoline! I hope they come to their senses...the=
re=20
was nothing anywhere that even said members only or whatever.

Heck, I'll return it.


Ross Kuhns

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Mail From: "Burgess, Michael L." <(email redacted)>

I thought its a 'rebate game' and companies do *not* have to pay anything if
they chose not too.

-Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hagerla [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 12:23 AM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...



That's a bunch of BS. My bet is they won't risk dealing with 10's of
thousands of fraud cases - they will probably be forced to honor the rebates
to those of us that have the printed vouchers. I am gonna wait in the wings
for now...

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:36 PM
To: Ross Kuhns
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...



That sucks.. Almost opened them tonight, it goes back tomorrow.. Scumbags.

Wallyman


-----"Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)> wrote: -----

To: (email redacted), (email redacted)
From: "Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)>
Date: 05/21/2004 07:11PM
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...

Wow, what rat dogs at Valvoline! I hope they come to their senses...there
was nothing anywhere that even said members only or whatever.

Heck, I'll return it.


Ross Kuhns





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Mail From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>

I don't think so. The game is this. They hope people will buy the product=
because of the rebate, there by increasing sales, and then a certain perce=
ntage of them don't bother to fill in the rebate or do it wrong. This equa=
ls increased profits for the company even with the rebate.

Ever notice how complex some rebates are to comply with??? This is to allo=
w them to disallow the rebate if you don't follow the directions. This Vav=
oline rebate was set up that way.

But I think if they offered a rebate and people comply with the terms they =
are obligated to honor it.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Burgess, Michael L.=20
To: 'Michael Hagerla' ; (email redacted)=20
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:40 AM
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...


I thought its a 'rebate game' and companies do *not* have to pay anything=
if they chose not too.

-Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hagerla [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 12:23 AM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...


That's a bunch of BS. My bet is they won't risk dealing with 10's of t=
housands of fraud cases - they will probably be forced to honor the rebates=
to those of us that have the printed vouchers. I am gonna wait in the win=
gs for now...

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:36 PM
To: Ross Kuhns
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...


That sucks.. Almost opened them tonight, it goes back tomorrow.. Scum=
bags.

Wallyman

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-----"Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)> wrote: -----

To: (email redacted), (email redacted)
From: "Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)>
Date: 05/21/2004 07:11PM
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...

Wow, what rat dogs at Valvoline! I hope they come to their senses...t=
here=20
was nothing anywhere that even said members only or whatever.

Heck, I'll return it.


Ross Kuhns




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Mail From: "Burgess, Michael L." <(email redacted)>


I agree, found this after I sent my reply. And you are correct, they have
to comply....provided you still have proof of purchase and receipt...usually
people send them in w/o making copies. Also, sometimes the rebate company
can 'lose' your info...this is when copies help the most.

techrebates.com/rebates.asp
<techrebates.com/rebates.asp>

A good read.

-Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:53 AM
To: Burgess, Michael L.; 'Michael Hagerla'; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...


I don't think so. The game is this. They hope people will buy the product
because of the rebate, there by increasing sales, and then a certain
percentage of them don't bother to fill in the rebate or do it wrong. This
equals increased profits for the company even with the rebate.

Ever notice how complex some rebates are to comply with??? This is to allow
them to disallow the rebate if you don't follow the directions. This
Vavoline rebate was set up that way.

But I think if they offered a rebate and people comply with the terms they
are obligated to honor it.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
<lowcountrymiataclub.net>
Masters Miata
RAGS 074


----- Original Message -----
From: Burgess, Michael L. <mailto:(email redacted)>
To: 'Michael Hagerla' <mailto:(email redacted)> ;
(email redacted) <mailto:(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:40 AM
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...

I thought its a 'rebate game' and companies do *not* have to pay anything if
they chose not too.

-Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hagerla [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 12:23 AM
To: (email redacted) <mailto:(email redacted)>
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...



That's a bunch of BS. My bet is they won't risk dealing with 10's of
thousands of fraud cases - they will probably be forced to honor the rebates
to those of us that have the printed vouchers. I am gonna wait in the wings
for now...

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 7:36 PM
To: Ross Kuhns
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...



That sucks.. Almost opened them tonight, it goes back tomorrow.. Scumbags.

Wallyman


-----"Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)> wrote: -----

To: (email redacted), (email redacted)
From: "Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)>
Date: 05/21/2004 07:11PM
Subject: RE: Valvoline rebate part deaux: the viscosity increases...

Wow, what rat dogs at Valvoline! I hope they come to their senses...there
was nothing anywhere that even said members only or whatever.

Heck, I'll return it.


Ross Kuhns





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