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Timing $%#@$%^&&%!!!!! (NPC)
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Mail From: "Brad Franks" <(email redacted)>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Circle" <(email redacted)>
Cc: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Timing $%#@$%^&&%!!!!!
> Don't you mean EVERY MICROSOFT SOFTWARE PROGRAMMER!!
>
> Chris P wrote:
>
> > No Ralph. Like every software programmer I know, you gave me perfectly
> > accurate, but useless, answer! ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: "Ralph Doehrmann" <(email redacted)>
> >> To: <(email redacted)>
> >> Subject: Re: Timing $%#@$%^&&%!!!!!
> >> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:58:40 -0500
> >>
> >>
> >> Dealing with 3 states.
> >> 1. IGN TRIM +10 ON locks the timing to TDC to allow you to time it to
> >> +10
> >> degrees using the +10 mark. (hope I got that correct.)
> >>
> >> 2. Turning that function off will give fluctuating timing readings
> >> because
> >> the ecu may be transitioning between different zones with different
> >> timing
> >> (probably more than that going on too) so fluctuation is probably
> >> normal.
> >>
> >> 3. Turning that function off on my car gives rock solid timing
> >> because I've
> >> made sure the timing (and fuel) settings are the same in couple zones
it
> >> might hop around in. By far the best idle timing I've ever seen on ANY
> >> engine.
> >>
> >> Didn't answer your questions did I?
> >>
> >> Ralph
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Chris P <(email redacted)>
> >> To: <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>;
> >> <(email redacted)>
> >> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM
> >> Subject: Timing $%#@$%^&&%!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> > Ok Ignition weirdness...
> >> >
> >> > IGN Trim +10 on mark is at 6th tooth (counting back from
> >> right)
> >> > IGN TRim off (normal) mark is at 8 or 9th tooth
> >> >
> >> > I thought +10 was supposed to ADD advance?
> >> >
> >> > Is each tooth 2 degrees, or 1degree ?
> >> >
> >> > I thought with IGN Trim off it should line up with the first tooth
> >> (zero).
> >> > No?
> >> >
> >> > This is baffling...
> >> >
> >> > Also the mark jumps around a lot by 1 - 3 teeth at times...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>
> >> > >To: 'Ralph Doehrmann' <(email redacted)>, Chris P
> >> <(email redacted)>,
> >> > >Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>, (email redacted)
> >> > >Subject: RE: cold morning power question
> >> > >Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:53:06 -0700
> >> > >
> >> > >Ralph,
> >> > >How have you been setting your ignition timing? Sure, there are
> >> timing
> >> > >marks
> >> > >on the front cover.
> >> > >
> >> > >Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
> >> > >(email redacted)
> >> > >Flyin' Miata
> >> > >1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
> >> > >970-242-3800 (tech support)
> >> > >flyinmiata.com
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Ralph Doehrmann [mailto:(email redacted)]
> >> > >Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:52 AM
> >> > >To: Chris P; (email redacted); (email redacted)
> >> > >Subject: Re: cold morning power question
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >I was wondering last night if we could double check the timing belt
> >> without
> >> > >pulling the crank pulley. Up above all we need to remove is the
> >> valve
> >> > >cover
> >> > >and little plastic front cover. It can be wrestled out ok.
> >> > >I assume there is a TDC mark on the plastic cover down below.
> >> > >Is it this easy?
> >> > >
> >> > >Ralph Doehrmann
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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Mail From: "Brad Franks" <(email redacted)>
Yeah, most 'nix programmers I know usually supply perfectly unintelligible,
but useful, answers. Take your pick...
Brad
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Circle" <(email redacted)>
Cc: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Timing $%#@$%^&&%!!!!!
> Don't you mean EVERY MICROSOFT SOFTWARE PROGRAMMER!!
>
> Chris P wrote:
>
> > No Ralph. Like every software programmer I know, you gave me perfectly
> > accurate, but useless, answer! ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: "Ralph Doehrmann" <(email redacted)>
> >> To: <(email redacted)>
> >> Subject: Re: Timing $%#@$%^&&%!!!!!
> >> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:58:40 -0500
> >>
> >>
> >> Dealing with 3 states.
> >> 1. IGN TRIM +10 ON locks the timing to TDC to allow you to time it to
> >> +10
> >> degrees using the +10 mark. (hope I got that correct.)
> >>
> >> 2. Turning that function off will give fluctuating timing readings
> >> because
> >> the ecu may be transitioning between different zones with different
> >> timing
> >> (probably more than that going on too) so fluctuation is probably
> >> normal.
> >>
> >> 3. Turning that function off on my car gives rock solid timing
> >> because I've
> >> made sure the timing (and fuel) settings are the same in couple zones
it
> >> might hop around in. By far the best idle timing I've ever seen on ANY
> >> engine.
> >>
> >> Didn't answer your questions did I?
> >>
> >> Ralph
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Chris P <(email redacted)>
> >> To: <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>;
> >> <(email redacted)>
> >> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM
> >> Subject: Timing $%#@$%^&&%!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> > Ok Ignition weirdness...
> >> >
> >> > IGN Trim +10 on mark is at 6th tooth (counting back from
> >> right)
> >> > IGN TRim off (normal) mark is at 8 or 9th tooth
> >> >
> >> > I thought +10 was supposed to ADD advance?
> >> >
> >> > Is each tooth 2 degrees, or 1degree ?
> >> >
> >> > I thought with IGN Trim off it should line up with the first tooth
> >> (zero).
> >> > No?
> >> >
> >> > This is baffling...
> >> >
> >> > Also the mark jumps around a lot by 1 - 3 teeth at times...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>
> >> > >To: 'Ralph Doehrmann' <(email redacted)>, Chris P
> >> <(email redacted)>,
> >> > >Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>, (email redacted)
> >> > >Subject: RE: cold morning power question
> >> > >Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 09:53:06 -0700
> >> > >
> >> > >Ralph,
> >> > >How have you been setting your ignition timing? Sure, there are
> >> timing
> >> > >marks
> >> > >on the front cover.
> >> > >
> >> > >Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
> >> > >(email redacted)
> >> > >Flyin' Miata
> >> > >1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
> >> > >970-242-3800 (tech support)
> >> > >flyinmiata.com
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Ralph Doehrmann [mailto:(email redacted)]
> >> > >Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:52 AM
> >> > >To: Chris P; (email redacted); (email redacted)
> >> > >Subject: Re: cold morning power question
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >I was wondering last night if we could double check the timing belt
> >> without
> >> > >pulling the crank pulley. Up above all we need to remove is the
> >> valve
> >> > >cover
> >> > >and little plastic front cover. It can be wrestled out ok.
> >> > >I assume there is a TDC mark on the plastic cover down below.
> >> > >Is it this easy?
> >> > >
> >> > >Ralph Doehrmann
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _________________________________________________________________
> >> > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail.
> >> > hotmail.com
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
> > photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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