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Temp Sensors and coil packs for 1.8 swap. (WasS2000 Crash...)
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Mail From: "Regie L Bryant" <(email redacted)>
Hey Bob,
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but do you think *just* "Lawn Darts"
would do it?
I'm thinking more powerful stuff than the "onsies/twosies" thing you get
with Lawn Darts, even if you throw them REAL HIGH.
(Of course, in Afghanistan, etc., arming every walking man with a
Kalishnakov assault rifle hasn't exactly stripped the land clean of kooks
and crazies...so I don't know if there is proof for this theorem or not...)
Now, back to Miata stuff--How many of you who transplanted 1.8 into 90-93
cars moved the two rear temp sensors from the 1.6 to the 1.8? I haven't
tried it, but it looks like I could just plug the 1.6 harness into the 1.8
sensors, they are just at slightly different positions. Next question, how
(exactly) does one wire 1.8 coil packs into the 1.6 wiring? I've searched
what I know of and have seen the diagram that Ray did for Clive Wong:
1.6 ECU Brown/yellow to 1.8 left coil (cyl 4 and 1) Brown/yellow
1.6 ECU Brown to 1.8 right coil (cyl 3 and 2) Brown
1.6 ECU Lavender to 1.8 both coils, lavender
1.6 ECU Black to 1.8 both coils, black (ground)
1.6 ECU Yellow/blue (tach) to 1.8 both coils, black/white
1.6 ECU Black/white (tach input) to 1.8 both coils, black/white
But the harness connector on my 93 going to the coils only has *three*
wires, and not exactly these colors. Anyone know how to do this?
Thanks,
Regie
Robert Circle
<rcircle@spea To: Eric Busche <(email redacted)>
keasy.net> cc: (email redacted)
bcc:
03/21/2002 Subject: Re: S2000 Crash...
03:38 PM
Watching the video I must stay with my thesis about world today. In that we
have made the world far to safe for the Stupid. We need to bring back lawn
darts Thin the herd of the free range rude/stupid!!! Stop them before they
reproduce.
Eric Busche wrote:
The thing I find most amusing about the forum this was posted on were
the
responses of the other Honda owners. Do you suppose any of the
repliers
are finished using acne cream and out of high school? Seeing forums
like
that reinforce how happy I am to be a Miata owner with a more mature
intelligent following.
I do enjoy driving at the limits of my car and personal abilities but
I do
this in a safe place such as a racetrack. I would bet that the bozo
driving
the S2000 was with a bunch of other kids driving like dorks on public
streets.
My 2 cents
EB
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [
mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:28 AM
To: (email redacted)
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: RE: S2000 Crash...
Yeah, at least at the *boring* tracks.. now the really fun ones, on
the
other hand..
:)
Personally I am very impressed with all the crash photos I have found
of
the Miata.. it's sturdy little bugger..
home.att.net/~fizzx/safety/index.html
Wallyman
(email redacted)
m To:
(email redacted)
cc: (email redacted),
(email redacted)
03/21/2002 09:28 Subject: RE: S2000
Crash...
AM
Well at least on the track you usually don't have
oncomming traffic to hit, rocky embankments to roll
down or trees to smack on the way down.
Nate
That kind of thing can happen when driving hard of a track.. I've
seen it
twice with Saturns.. Location doesn't make a difference,
stupidity reigns
supreme even on the best surfaces.
Wallyman
"Nathan Ramsey"
<nramsey@attbi.c To: "Daniel
Godelfer"
<(email redacted)>, <(email redacted)>
om> cc:
Subject: RE: S2000
Crash...
03/21/2002 01:34
AM
Someone posted that a few weeks ago to the Miataforum but they
took those
pics offline for a while. That is what can happen when driving
hard on
public roads. Those folks can thank their lucky stars for that
rollbar.
Nate
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Godelfer [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:09 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: S2000 Crash...
honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=145284
Check this out.
Mail From: "Regie L Bryant" <(email redacted)>
Hey Bob,
Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but do you think *just* "Lawn Darts"
would do it?
I'm thinking more powerful stuff than the "onsies/twosies" thing you get
with Lawn Darts, even if you throw them REAL HIGH.
(Of course, in Afghanistan, etc., arming every walking man with a
Kalishnakov assault rifle hasn't exactly stripped the land clean of kooks
and crazies...so I don't know if there is proof for this theorem or not...)
Now, back to Miata stuff--How many of you who transplanted 1.8 into 90-93
cars moved the two rear temp sensors from the 1.6 to the 1.8? I haven't
tried it, but it looks like I could just plug the 1.6 harness into the 1.8
sensors, they are just at slightly different positions. Next question, how
(exactly) does one wire 1.8 coil packs into the 1.6 wiring? I've searched
what I know of and have seen the diagram that Ray did for Clive Wong:
1.6 ECU Brown/yellow to 1.8 left coil (cyl 4 and 1) Brown/yellow
1.6 ECU Brown to 1.8 right coil (cyl 3 and 2) Brown
1.6 ECU Lavender to 1.8 both coils, lavender
1.6 ECU Black to 1.8 both coils, black (ground)
1.6 ECU Yellow/blue (tach) to 1.8 both coils, black/white
1.6 ECU Black/white (tach input) to 1.8 both coils, black/white
But the harness connector on my 93 going to the coils only has *three*
wires, and not exactly these colors. Anyone know how to do this?
Thanks,
Regie
Robert Circle
<rcircle@spea To: Eric Busche <(email redacted)>
keasy.net> cc: (email redacted)
bcc:
03/21/2002 Subject: Re: S2000 Crash...
03:38 PM
Watching the video I must stay with my thesis about world today. In that we
have made the world far to safe for the Stupid. We need to bring back lawn
darts Thin the herd of the free range rude/stupid!!! Stop them before they
reproduce.
Eric Busche wrote:
The thing I find most amusing about the forum this was posted on were
the
responses of the other Honda owners. Do you suppose any of the
repliers
are finished using acne cream and out of high school? Seeing forums
like
that reinforce how happy I am to be a Miata owner with a more mature
intelligent following.
I do enjoy driving at the limits of my car and personal abilities but
I do
this in a safe place such as a racetrack. I would bet that the bozo
driving
the S2000 was with a bunch of other kids driving like dorks on public
streets.
My 2 cents
EB
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [
mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:28 AM
To: (email redacted)
Cc: (email redacted); (email redacted)
Subject: RE: S2000 Crash...
Yeah, at least at the *boring* tracks.. now the really fun ones, on
the
other hand..
:)
Personally I am very impressed with all the crash photos I have found
of
the Miata.. it's sturdy little bugger..
home.att.net/~fizzx/safety/index.html
Wallyman
(email redacted)
m To:
(email redacted)
cc: (email redacted),
(email redacted)
03/21/2002 09:28 Subject: RE: S2000
Crash...
AM
Well at least on the track you usually don't have
oncomming traffic to hit, rocky embankments to roll
down or trees to smack on the way down.
Nate
That kind of thing can happen when driving hard of a track.. I've
seen it
twice with Saturns.. Location doesn't make a difference,
stupidity reigns
supreme even on the best surfaces.
Wallyman
"Nathan Ramsey"
<nramsey@attbi.c To: "Daniel
Godelfer"
<(email redacted)>, <(email redacted)>
om> cc:
Subject: RE: S2000
Crash...
03/21/2002 01:34
AM
Someone posted that a few weeks ago to the Miataforum but they
took those
pics offline for a while. That is what can happen when driving
hard on
public roads. Those folks can thank their lucky stars for that
rollbar.
Nate
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Godelfer [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:09 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: S2000 Crash...
honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=145284
Check this out.
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Mail From: Ray <(email redacted)>
The 1.6 wires referred to here are the igniter wires, not the coil wires.
The 1.8 igniters are built into the coils so there is no external
igniter-to-coil wiring. The diagram on Clive's site also shows an optional
resistor ... it's required with a 1.6 ECU.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Regie L Bryant" <(email redacted)>
>......... how
> (exactly) does one wire 1.8 coil packs into the 1.6 wiring? I've searched
> what I know of and have seen the diagram that Ray did for Clive Wong:
>
> 1.6 ECU Brown/yellow to 1.8 left coil (cyl 4 and 1) Brown/yellow
> 1.6 ECU Brown to 1.8 right coil (cyl 3 and 2) Brown
> 1.6 ECU Lavender to 1.8 both coils, lavender
> 1.6 ECU Black to 1.8 both coils, black (ground)
> 1.6 ECU Yellow/blue (tach) to 1.8 both coils, black/white
> 1.6 ECU Black/white (tach input) to 1.8 both coils, black/white
>
> But the harness connector on my 93 going to the coils only has *three*
> wires, and not exactly these colors. Anyone know how to do this?
Mail From: Ray <(email redacted)>
The 1.6 wires referred to here are the igniter wires, not the coil wires.
The 1.8 igniters are built into the coils so there is no external
igniter-to-coil wiring. The diagram on Clive's site also shows an optional
resistor ... it's required with a 1.6 ECU.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Regie L Bryant" <(email redacted)>
>......... how
> (exactly) does one wire 1.8 coil packs into the 1.6 wiring? I've searched
> what I know of and have seen the diagram that Ray did for Clive Wong:
>
> 1.6 ECU Brown/yellow to 1.8 left coil (cyl 4 and 1) Brown/yellow
> 1.6 ECU Brown to 1.8 right coil (cyl 3 and 2) Brown
> 1.6 ECU Lavender to 1.8 both coils, lavender
> 1.6 ECU Black to 1.8 both coils, black (ground)
> 1.6 ECU Yellow/blue (tach) to 1.8 both coils, black/white
> 1.6 ECU Black/white (tach input) to 1.8 both coils, black/white
>
> But the harness connector on my 93 going to the coils only has *three*
> wires, and not exactly these colors. Anyone know how to do this?
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