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You've wanted a rotary powered Miata? Presto:
mazsport.net/html/Rotary_Miata_Parts.htm
Why fart around with valves, valve springs, retainers, cups shims, cams,
rods, pistons all that crap...raced 'em before, about the cheapest power
around.
Charles Cox
www.miata-power.com
mailto:(email redacted)
> Regie,
>
> He says that car was there, and very nice by the way, but some type of
> announcement was made while there about an rx8 engined miata for next
> year. He's an old mazda parts manager so that is why it caught his
> attention. Lets hope it is true. Always wanted a rotary powered Miata.
Mail From: (email redacted)
You've wanted a rotary powered Miata? Presto:
mazsport.net/html/Rotary_Miata_Parts.htm
Why fart around with valves, valve springs, retainers, cups shims, cams,
rods, pistons all that crap...raced 'em before, about the cheapest power
around.
Charles Cox
www.miata-power.com
mailto:(email redacted)
> Regie,
>
> He says that car was there, and very nice by the way, but some type of
> announcement was made while there about an rx8 engined miata for next
> year. He's an old mazda parts manager so that is why it caught his
> attention. Lets hope it is true. Always wanted a rotary powered Miata.
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Mail From: NoGood <(email redacted)>
I liked the video of the Roata (or is it Motary?) at Deals Gap
mazsport.net/html/multimedia.html
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:54 PM, (email redacted) wrote:
> You've wanted a rotary powered Miata? Presto:
> mazsport.net/html/Rotary_Miata_Parts.htm
> Why fart around with valves, valve springs, retainers, cups shims,
> cams,
> rods, pistons all that crap...raced 'em before, about the cheapest
> power
> around.
> Charles Cox
> www.miata-power.com
> mailto:(email redacted)
>
>> Regie,
>>
>> He says that car was there, and very nice by the way, but some type of
>> announcement was made while there about an rx8 engined miata for next
>> year. He's an old mazda parts manager so that is why it caught his
>> attention. Lets hope it is true. Always wanted a rotary powered
>> Miata.
>
>
Mail From: NoGood <(email redacted)>
I liked the video of the Roata (or is it Motary?) at Deals Gap
mazsport.net/html/multimedia.html
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:54 PM, (email redacted) wrote:
> You've wanted a rotary powered Miata? Presto:
> mazsport.net/html/Rotary_Miata_Parts.htm
> Why fart around with valves, valve springs, retainers, cups shims,
> cams,
> rods, pistons all that crap...raced 'em before, about the cheapest
> power
> around.
> Charles Cox
> www.miata-power.com
> mailto:(email redacted)
>
>> Regie,
>>
>> He says that car was there, and very nice by the way, but some type of
>> announcement was made while there about an rx8 engined miata for next
>> year. He's an old mazda parts manager so that is why it caught his
>> attention. Lets hope it is true. Always wanted a rotary powered
>> Miata.
>
>
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Mail From: "Russ" <(email redacted)>
Pardon the detour off topic.
Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
open exhaust...
My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and
H-6's.
I do like the sound of an extremely high revving Inline 4: the Honda
S2000 with a super charger and an open exhaust sounds really nice at
9,000rpm.
Russ
-----Original Message-----
From: NoGood [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:59 PM
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
I liked the video of the Roata (or is it Motary?) at Deals Gap
mazsport.net/html/multimedia.html
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:54 PM, (email redacted) wrote:
> You've wanted a rotary powered Miata? Presto:
> mazsport.net/html/Rotary_Miata_Parts.htm
> Why fart around with valves, valve springs, retainers, cups shims,
> cams,
> rods, pistons all that crap...raced 'em before, about the cheapest
> power
> around.
> Charles Cox
> www.miata-power.com
> mailto:(email redacted)
>
>> Regie,
>>
>> He says that car was there, and very nice by the way, but some type
of
>> announcement was made while there about an rx8 engined miata for next
>> year. He's an old mazda parts manager so that is why it caught his
>> attention. Lets hope it is true. Always wanted a rotary powered
>> Miata.
>
>
Mail From: "Russ" <(email redacted)>
Pardon the detour off topic.
Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
open exhaust...
My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and
H-6's.
I do like the sound of an extremely high revving Inline 4: the Honda
S2000 with a super charger and an open exhaust sounds really nice at
9,000rpm.
Russ
-----Original Message-----
From: NoGood [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:59 PM
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
I liked the video of the Roata (or is it Motary?) at Deals Gap
mazsport.net/html/multimedia.html
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:54 PM, (email redacted) wrote:
> You've wanted a rotary powered Miata? Presto:
> mazsport.net/html/Rotary_Miata_Parts.htm
> Why fart around with valves, valve springs, retainers, cups shims,
> cams,
> rods, pistons all that crap...raced 'em before, about the cheapest
> power
> around.
> Charles Cox
> www.miata-power.com
> mailto:(email redacted)
>
>> Regie,
>>
>> He says that car was there, and very nice by the way, but some type
of
>> announcement was made while there about an rx8 engined miata for next
>> year. He's an old mazda parts manager so that is why it caught his
>> attention. Lets hope it is true. Always wanted a rotary powered
>> Miata.
>
>
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Mail From: Ashraf Farrag <(email redacted)>
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear
one tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and
> H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I
like 'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
Mail From: Ashraf Farrag <(email redacted)>
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear
one tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and
> H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I
like 'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
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Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
Mail From: (email redacted)
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
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Mail From: "Tom Reynolds" <(email redacted)>
Have you ever thought a rotary Miata (assuming you could do the mods
legally) for SM2 would be a pretty good contender? I'm not too savvy on all
that's allowed for the conversion but theoretically, figuring in the 1800
minimum weight if that still applies for this conversion - if so sounds like
a pretty mean car.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:43 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
Mail From: "Tom Reynolds" <(email redacted)>
Have you ever thought a rotary Miata (assuming you could do the mods
legally) for SM2 would be a pretty good contender? I'm not too savvy on all
that's allowed for the conversion but theoretically, figuring in the 1800
minimum weight if that still applies for this conversion - if so sounds like
a pretty mean car.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:43 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
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Indeed I have...particularly a 3 rotor, although I don't think it is
necessary if going forced induction. Indeed it is legal by-the-way.
Would prefer supercharger for drivability (and no lousy blow-off valve
noises). 3 rotor Miata was last year's National EP champ, by-the-way. In
autocrossing, it seems about 450-500hp is about the max you can use anyway
and a 2 rotor can do that (with FI)...problem with a Miata in that power
range is traction. Can't get enough rubber on the car to put the power to
the ground...I had that problem with only 232 RWHP. RX-7 is
different...room there for rubber.
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:54 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Have you ever thought a rotary Miata (assuming you could do the mods
legally) for SM2 would be a pretty good contender? I'm not too savvy on all
that's allowed for the conversion but theoretically, figuring in the 1800
minimum weight if that still applies for this conversion - if so sounds like
a pretty mean car.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:43 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com Residential
Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
Mail From: (email redacted)
Indeed I have...particularly a 3 rotor, although I don't think it is
necessary if going forced induction. Indeed it is legal by-the-way.
Would prefer supercharger for drivability (and no lousy blow-off valve
noises). 3 rotor Miata was last year's National EP champ, by-the-way. In
autocrossing, it seems about 450-500hp is about the max you can use anyway
and a 2 rotor can do that (with FI)...problem with a Miata in that power
range is traction. Can't get enough rubber on the car to put the power to
the ground...I had that problem with only 232 RWHP. RX-7 is
different...room there for rubber.
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:54 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Have you ever thought a rotary Miata (assuming you could do the mods
legally) for SM2 would be a pretty good contender? I'm not too savvy on all
that's allowed for the conversion but theoretically, figuring in the 1800
minimum weight if that still applies for this conversion - if so sounds like
a pretty mean car.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:43 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com Residential
Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
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Mail From: "Tom Reynolds" <(email redacted)>
Is a 3 rotor really legal for SM2? I didn't know they produced a 3 rotor to
the US market?
Agreed about the tires. I'm going to move to SM2 next year with an Uber,
already I think the 225/50/15s are going to be marginal and I don't plan to
make big power. Shame they didn't have that size when you had your KB setup.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:19 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Indeed I have...particularly a 3 rotor, although I don't think it is
necessary if going forced induction. Indeed it is legal by-the-way.
Would prefer supercharger for drivability (and no lousy blow-off valve
noises). 3 rotor Miata was last year's National EP champ, by-the-way. In
autocrossing, it seems about 450-500hp is about the max you can use anyway
and a 2 rotor can do that (with FI)...problem with a Miata in that power
range is traction. Can't get enough rubber on the car to put the power to
the ground...I had that problem with only 232 RWHP. RX-7 is
different...room there for rubber.
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:54 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Have you ever thought a rotary Miata (assuming you could do the mods
legally) for SM2 would be a pretty good contender? I'm not too savvy on all
that's allowed for the conversion but theoretically, figuring in the 1800
minimum weight if that still applies for this conversion - if so sounds like
a pretty mean car.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:43 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com Residential
Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
Mail From: "Tom Reynolds" <(email redacted)>
Is a 3 rotor really legal for SM2? I didn't know they produced a 3 rotor to
the US market?
Agreed about the tires. I'm going to move to SM2 next year with an Uber,
already I think the 225/50/15s are going to be marginal and I don't plan to
make big power. Shame they didn't have that size when you had your KB setup.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:19 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Indeed I have...particularly a 3 rotor, although I don't think it is
necessary if going forced induction. Indeed it is legal by-the-way.
Would prefer supercharger for drivability (and no lousy blow-off valve
noises). 3 rotor Miata was last year's National EP champ, by-the-way. In
autocrossing, it seems about 450-500hp is about the max you can use anyway
and a 2 rotor can do that (with FI)...problem with a Miata in that power
range is traction. Can't get enough rubber on the car to put the power to
the ground...I had that problem with only 232 RWHP. RX-7 is
different...room there for rubber.
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:54 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Have you ever thought a rotary Miata (assuming you could do the mods
legally) for SM2 would be a pretty good contender? I'm not too savvy on all
that's allowed for the conversion but theoretically, figuring in the 1800
minimum weight if that still applies for this conversion - if so sounds like
a pretty mean car.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:43 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com Residential
Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
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Not necessary to be from US market through this year...think a change is in
the works for next year though but based on my experience (they've changed
the bloody rules every year I've tried to build my car making it virtually
impossible to build in time to maximize the existing rule set...that's
another story!) no way to know until the rules come out. You can still make
enough power with the 2 rotor anyway.
I had problem with traction even with the 275/40-17s!
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:50 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Is a 3 rotor really legal for SM2? I didn't know they produced a 3 rotor to
the US market?
Agreed about the tires. I'm going to move to SM2 next year with an Uber,
already I think the 225/50/15s are going to be marginal and I don't plan to
make big power. Shame they didn't have that size when you had your KB setup.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:19 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Indeed I have...particularly a 3 rotor, although I don't think it is
necessary if going forced induction. Indeed it is legal by-the-way.
Would prefer supercharger for drivability (and no lousy blow-off valve
noises). 3 rotor Miata was last year's National EP champ, by-the-way. In
autocrossing, it seems about 450-500hp is about the max you can use anyway
and a 2 rotor can do that (with FI)...problem with a Miata in that power
range is traction. Can't get enough rubber on the car to put the power to
the ground...I had that problem with only 232 RWHP. RX-7 is
different...room there for rubber.
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com Residential
Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:54 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Have you ever thought a rotary Miata (assuming you could do the mods
legally) for SM2 would be a pretty good contender? I'm not too savvy on all
that's allowed for the conversion but theoretically, figuring in the 1800
minimum weight if that still applies for this conversion - if so sounds like
a pretty mean car.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:43 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com Residential
Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
Mail From: (email redacted)
Not necessary to be from US market through this year...think a change is in
the works for next year though but based on my experience (they've changed
the bloody rules every year I've tried to build my car making it virtually
impossible to build in time to maximize the existing rule set...that's
another story!) no way to know until the rules come out. You can still make
enough power with the 2 rotor anyway.
I had problem with traction even with the 275/40-17s!
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com
Residential Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:50 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Is a 3 rotor really legal for SM2? I didn't know they produced a 3 rotor to
the US market?
Agreed about the tires. I'm going to move to SM2 next year with an Uber,
already I think the 225/50/15s are going to be marginal and I don't plan to
make big power. Shame they didn't have that size when you had your KB setup.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:19 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Indeed I have...particularly a 3 rotor, although I don't think it is
necessary if going forced induction. Indeed it is legal by-the-way.
Would prefer supercharger for drivability (and no lousy blow-off valve
noises). 3 rotor Miata was last year's National EP champ, by-the-way. In
autocrossing, it seems about 450-500hp is about the max you can use anyway
and a 2 rotor can do that (with FI)...problem with a Miata in that power
range is traction. Can't get enough rubber on the car to put the power to
the ground...I had that problem with only 232 RWHP. RX-7 is
different...room there for rubber.
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com Residential
Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:54 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Have you ever thought a rotary Miata (assuming you could do the mods
legally) for SM2 would be a pretty good contender? I'm not too savvy on all
that's allowed for the conversion but theoretically, figuring in the 1800
minimum weight if that still applies for this conversion - if so sounds like
a pretty mean car.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:43 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: Rotary Miata
Back when I used to road-race them, we could actually use a megaphone...no
mufflers until they tried to quiet them down due to the obnoxious noise
(like a 2 stroke)...all it did when muffled was add power. Oddly enough
though...it was quieter in the car than the BMW was...outside the car was a
different matter...
Charles
Charles W. Cox - Broker
Commercial and Residential Financing
PACIFIC CAPITAL MORTGAGE - Mortgage Bank
11452 El Camino Real #100
San Diego, CA 92130-2070
Cellular Telephone: (619) 517-4800
Facsimile: (619) 330-2379
Mailto:(email redacted)
Commercial Financing Website: www.CoastalBayCommercial.com Residential
Financing Website: www.CoastalBay.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ashraf Farrag [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 5:19 PM
To: Russ
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Rotary Miata
Russ wrote:
> Pardon the detour off topic.
>
> Interesting idea... but I think rotories sound horrible on track with
> open exhaust...
You can actually hear anything with a open-exhaust rotary on track?
I can't. I'd go deaf in an instant. ;)
I still like them. They are rude, in your face, yes...it sounds like a
weedwhacker/chainsaw on mega-steroids, but I get all giggly when I hear one
tearing up a track.
Must be because I own one (but I like mine reasonably quiet). :)
Try a 3 or a 4 rotor. That's a sweet symphony I'd love to play.
> My favorite sounding cars on track are V-8's, Inline-6's, H-4's and >
H-6's.
I like Italian V8's especially, V12's, inline-6's...oh...aww-heck, I like
'em all.
Everything except the awful-sounding ricey 4-cylinders (usually a Honda)
that you hear around town. Yuck.
--Ashraf
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