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On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Abraham Mara wrote:

> I've been thinking of just really bright IR LEDs. They won't show up
> to the naked eye, but will overpower normal cameras. Ok, I was
> thinking you could make a helmet of them for robbing banks but you
> wouldn't look odd to everyone else, but I guess it'd work on those
> cameras too.

Need a partner. It would make sense that it would be easier for 2 to
rob a bank than just one.

That's funny in that I was just talking to my bank about them being
robbed and protection factors. Most banks have minimal security
procedures nowadays because they don't expect to be robbed. It is a
very low reward/risk ratio. You can't get millions of dollars and very
few get away.

They simply keep minimal $$ available and have shutters that
automatically lower over the windows and an electronic lock that locks
the door so that the Bank robber has to break the glass to get out.
You'll probably never see a security guard at a bank anymore.

They said much more money was stolen electronically than ever was
stolen physically.

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Mail From: "Abraham Mara" <(email redacted)>

Stolen electronically, and stolen by cops with laser guns. Not that I'm
bitter or nothing. :-)

Hmmm, you know, I think my miata would be a good getaway car...
-Abe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "NoGood" <(email redacted)>
Cc: "miata List" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: Robbing Banks was Canadian blather


>
> On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Abraham Mara wrote:
>
>> I've been thinking of just really bright IR LEDs. They won't show up to
>> the naked eye, but will overpower normal cameras. Ok, I was thinking you
>> could make a helmet of them for robbing banks but you wouldn't look odd
>> to everyone else, but I guess it'd work on those cameras too.
>
> Need a partner. It would make sense that it would be easier for 2 to rob a
> bank than just one.
>
> That's funny in that I was just talking to my bank about them being robbed
> and protection factors. Most banks have minimal security procedures
> nowadays because they don't expect to be robbed. It is a very low
> reward/risk ratio. You can't get millions of dollars and very few get
> away.
>
> They simply keep minimal $$ available and have shutters that automatically
> lower over the windows and an electronic lock that locks the door so that
> the Bank robber has to break the glass to get out. You'll probably never
> see a security guard at a bank anymore.
>
> They said much more money was stolen electronically than ever was stolen
> physically.
>
>

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Mail From: Robert McElwee <(email redacted)>

I think Congress steals much more than either! Not that I am bitter...

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From: "Abraham Mara" <(email redacted)>
Cc: "miata List" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Robbing Banks was Canadian blather


> Stolen electronically, and stolen by cops with laser guns. Not that I'm
> bitter or nothing. :-)
>
> Hmmm, you know, I think my miata would be a good getaway car...
> -Abe.

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Mail From: NoGood <(email redacted)>


On Apr 27, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Abraham Mara wrote:

> Stolen electronically, and stolen by cops with laser guns. Not that
> I'm bitter or nothing. :-)
>
> Hmmm, you know, I think my miata would be a good getaway car...

See, with all the brain power on this list we could fund all of our car
projects for some time to come.

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Just saw some guy try to outrun cops in a white stolen Miata on Scariest
Police Videos (love that show!) a few nights ago.. oversteered on 2 or 3
turns, hit a pickup, then reversed into another car, then forward into one
of the patrol cars, then back into the car again, then into one of the cops
on foot at which point the other one shot the driver almost point blank
twice, presumedly in the face but regardless I'm sure he died as they
didn't mention he survived it.

I say go for it, I am sure you'll fare better than he did.

Wallyman






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Stolen electronically, and stolen by cops with laser guns. Not that I'm
bitter or nothing. :-)

Hmmm, you know, I think my miata would be a good getaway car...
-Abe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "NoGood" <(email redacted)>
Cc: "miata List" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: Robbing Banks was Canadian blather


>
> On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Abraham Mara wrote:
>
>> I've been thinking of just really bright IR LEDs. They won't show up to

>> the naked eye, but will overpower normal cameras. Ok, I was thinking
you
>> could make a helmet of them for robbing banks but you wouldn't look odd
>> to everyone else, but I guess it'd work on those cameras too.
>
> Need a partner. It would make sense that it would be easier for 2 to rob
a
> bank than just one.
>
> That's funny in that I was just talking to my bank about them being
robbed
> and protection factors. Most banks have minimal security procedures
> nowadays because they don't expect to be robbed. It is a very low
> reward/risk ratio. You can't get millions of dollars and very few get
> away.
>
> They simply keep minimal $$ available and have shutters that
automatically
> lower over the windows and an electronic lock that locks the door so that

> the Bank robber has to break the glass to get out. You'll probably never
> see a security guard at a bank anymore.
>
> They said much more money was stolen electronically than ever was stolen
> physically.
>
>

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Mail From: "Abraham Mara" <(email redacted)>

...And I thought I was bitter. I'm not really big on running from cops as
it's a safety concern.

Sounds to me like the guy should have stolen a high HP FWD car.
-Abe.
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From: <(email redacted)>


> Just saw some guy try to outrun cops in a white stolen Miata on Scariest
> Police Videos (love that show!) a few nights ago.. oversteered on 2 or 3
> turns, hit a pickup, then reversed into another car, then forward into one
> of the patrol cars, then back into the car again, then into one of the
> cops
> on foot at which point the other one shot the driver almost point blank
> twice, presumedly in the face but regardless I'm sure he died as they
> didn't mention he survived it.
>
> I say go for it, I am sure you'll fare better than he did.
>
> Wallyman
>

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Mail From: "Ray" <(email redacted)>

Hmmmm ... I just saw that bank bit in a movie last week (Inside Man?). The
light was disguised as a hand-carried sports lantern IIRC. The main problem
I see using it to combat laser guns is that you'd need a pretty wide beam
and that makes it a lot more difficult to get the necessary intensity level.


----- Original Message -----
From: "NoGood" <(email redacted)>
Cc: "miata List" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: Robbing Banks was Canadian blather


>
> On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Abraham Mara wrote:
>
>> I've been thinking of just really bright IR LEDs. They won't show up to
>> the naked eye, but will overpower normal cameras. Ok, I was thinking you
>> could make a helmet of them for robbing banks but you wouldn't look odd
>> to everyone else, but I guess it'd work on those cameras too.
>
> Need a partner. It would make sense that it would be easier for 2 to rob a
> bank than just one.
>
> That's funny in that I was just talking to my bank about them being robbed
> and protection factors. Most banks have minimal security procedures
> nowadays because they don't expect to be robbed. It is a very low
> reward/risk ratio. You can't get millions of dollars and very few get
> away.
>
> They simply keep minimal $$ available and have shutters that automatically
> lower over the windows and an electronic lock that locks the door so that
> the Bank robber has to break the glass to get out. You'll probably never
> see a security guard at a bank anymore.
>
> They said much more money was stolen electronically than ever was stolen
> physically.

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Mail From: "Abraham Mara" <(email redacted)>

Oh, no, I was thinking for cameras. There ARE laser jamming systems, I've
heard they are terribly illegal. A detector is useless, whatever it is
needs to be functioning in less than a second. Much less. And then you
need to have a disable, so they can't detect it. Then you need to hide it
cosmetically so they can't see it. Then it helps not to be driving an
illegally modified car. And of course, even the jammers only work from a
distance, up close there is too much reflected light from the true signal to
overpower with the jammer (this confuses me, though, since you're also
further away so your jamming should be weaker at a distance).

It's something I've thought about - they are quite expensive. It'd even be
fun to build one in, hide the detectors and the emitters in various places
on the body.

And I'd already be up 360, plus the cost of traffic school, plus my
insurance rates if they don't let me take traffic school. Even for a $1000
system I'd be close to having it...
-Abe.
P.S. Inside man? Is that new? Any good?
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From: Ray [mailto:(email redacted)]

Hmmmm ... I just saw that bank bit in a movie last week (Inside Man?). The
light was disguised as a hand-carried sports lantern IIRC. The main problem

I see using it to combat laser guns is that you'd need a pretty wide beam
and that makes it a lot more difficult to get the necessary intensity level.

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Mail From: "Stephen Rigley" <(email redacted)>

Was that the clip with 3 people in the car?

On 4/27/06, (email redacted) <(email redacted)> wrote:
> Just saw some guy try to outrun cops in a white stolen Miata on Scariest
> Police Videos (love that show!) a few nights ago.. oversteered on 2 or 3
> turns, hit a pickup, then reversed into another car, then forward into one
> of the patrol cars, then back into the car again, then into one of the co=
ps
> on foot at which point the other one shot the driver almost point blank
> twice, presumedly in the face but regardless I'm sure he died as they
> didn't mention he survived it.
>
> I say go for it, I am sure you'll fare better than he did.
>
> Wallyman
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Abraham Mara"
> <AbeFM@mad.scient
> ist.com> To
>
> 04/27/2006 03:31 cc
> PM "miata List"
> <(email redacted)>
> Subject
> Please respond to Re: Robbing Banks was Canadian
> "Abraham Mara" blather
> <AbeFM@mad.scient
> ist.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Stolen electronically, and stolen by cops with laser guns. Not that I'm
> bitter or nothing. :-)
>
> Hmmm, you know, I think my miata would be a good getaway car...
> -Abe.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "NoGood" <(email redacted)>
> Cc: "miata List" <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:21 PM
> Subject: Robbing Banks was Canadian blather
>
>
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Abraham Mara wrote:
> >
> >> I've been thinking of just really bright IR LEDs. They won't show up =
to
>
> >> the naked eye, but will overpower normal cameras. Ok, I was thinking
> you
> >> could make a helmet of them for robbing banks but you wouldn't look odd
> >> to everyone else, but I guess it'd work on those cameras too.
> >
> > Need a partner. It would make sense that it would be easier for 2 to rob
> a
> > bank than just one.
> >
> > That's funny in that I was just talking to my bank about them being
> robbed
> > and protection factors. Most banks have minimal security procedures
> > nowadays because they don't expect to be robbed. It is a very low
> > reward/risk ratio. You can't get millions of dollars and very few get
> > away.
> >
> > They simply keep minimal $$ available and have shutters that
> automatically
> > lower over the windows and an electronic lock that locks the door so th=
at
>
> > the Bank robber has to break the glass to get out. You'll probably never
> > see a security guard at a bank anymore.
> >
> > They said much more money was stolen electronically than ever was stolen
> > physically.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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Mail From: (email redacted)

Not that I know of, top was up and they stole the car.. entertaining chase
anyhow.

Wally






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Was that the clip with 3 people in the car?

On 4/27/06, (email redacted) <(email redacted)> wrote:
> Just saw some guy try to outrun cops in a white stolen Miata on Scariest
> Police Videos (love that show!) a few nights ago.. oversteered on 2 or 3
> turns, hit a pickup, then reversed into another car, then forward into
one
> of the patrol cars, then back into the car again, then into one of the
cops
> on foot at which point the other one shot the driver almost point blank
> twice, presumedly in the face but regardless I'm sure he died as they
> didn't mention he survived it.
>
> I say go for it, I am sure you'll fare better than he did.
>
> Wallyman
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Abraham Mara"
> <AbeFM@mad.scient
> ist.com> To
>
> 04/27/2006 03:31 cc
> PM "miata List"
> <(email redacted)>
> Subject
> Please respond to Re: Robbing Banks was Canadian
> "Abraham Mara" blather
> <AbeFM@mad.scient
> ist.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Stolen electronically, and stolen by cops with laser guns. Not that I'm
> bitter or nothing. :-)
>
> Hmmm, you know, I think my miata would be a good getaway car...
> -Abe.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "NoGood" <(email redacted)>
> Cc: "miata List" <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:21 PM
> Subject: Robbing Banks was Canadian blather
>
>
> >
> > On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:59 PM, Abraham Mara wrote:
> >
> >> I've been thinking of just really bright IR LEDs. They won't show up
to
>
> >> the naked eye, but will overpower normal cameras. Ok, I was thinking
> you
> >> could make a helmet of them for robbing banks but you wouldn't look
odd
> >> to everyone else, but I guess it'd work on those cameras too.
> >
> > Need a partner. It would make sense that it would be easier for 2 to
rob
> a
> > bank than just one.
> >
> > That's funny in that I was just talking to my bank about them being
> robbed
> > and protection factors. Most banks have minimal security procedures
> > nowadays because they don't expect to be robbed. It is a very low
> > reward/risk ratio. You can't get millions of dollars and very few get
> > away.
> >
> > They simply keep minimal $$ available and have shutters that
> automatically
> > lower over the windows and an electronic lock that locks the door so
that
>
> > the Bank robber has to break the glass to get out. You'll probably
never
> > see a security guard at a bank anymore.
> >
> > They said much more money was stolen electronically than ever was
stolen
> > physically.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>