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Mail From: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>

There's lots of bracing, for one thing. I know Elvis was over 2500 with full
tank.

Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
(email redacted)
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
flyinmiata.com
flyinprotege.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian McCloghrie [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:56 PM
To: Larry Alster
Cc: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


On Apr 22, 2004 "Larry Alster" wrote:
> I put my 1992 track car on the scales Saturday at the track and with the =
> FM I system in it the car weighed 2305. This is not a stripped car but =
> it's not loaded either. Basically a straight A package with 16" 2003 =
> wheels and a rollbar.
>
> I expected the MSM to weigh more.

My 99 leather packet w/ FM2 Weighs 2450 with a full tank of gas, HDHCDD,
and a trailer hitch. How'd they add another hundred pounds to the MSM?

--Ian

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Mail From: Jason C <(email redacted)>


--- Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:
>
> Wonder what the hit at 4.5k can be
>
> Larry
>

Poor spoolup? Do you feel the hit even at higher
gears? With my small turbo, there's a "hit" only in
1st gear.

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Mail From: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>

Looks like it. Rear muffler swaps in, too.

Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
(email redacted)
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
flyinmiata.com <flyinmiata.com/>
flyinprotege.com <flyinprotege.com/>
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Paciorek [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:16 PM
To: 'Bill Cardell'; (email redacted)
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


While it's in there - can you tell if the front spoiler-thing addon looks
like it will fit the 02+ standard bumper cover?


_____

From: Bill Cardell [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:53 PM
To: 'Chad J. Douglas'; Bill Cardell; 'Jason C'; (email redacted)
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.

No, Keith is working on it ;-) And Ken took the day off.

Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
(email redacted)
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
flyinmiata.com <flyinmiata.com/>
flyinprotege.com <flyinprotege.com/>
-----Original Message-----
From: Chad J. Douglas [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:50 AM
To: Bill Cardell; 'Jason C'; (email redacted)
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
What? Not up to the challenge, Bill?

Getting slow in your old age?

<ducking>


_____

From: Bill Cardell
Sent: Thu 4/22/2004 1:43 PM
To: 'Jason C'; Bill Cardell; (email redacted)
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
Tall order for having the car for a day and a half and installing a rollbar.

Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
(email redacted)
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
flyinmiata.com
flyinprotege.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason C [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:31 AM
To: Bill Cardell; (email redacted)
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


Be very interesting to see data such as:

- inctercooler pressure drop
- intercooler outlet temps (inlet too for that matter)
- exhaust system backpressure (I have a fitting that
fits in the O2 sensor bung just for that :) )
- Turbine inlet pressure
- compare spoolup against FM turbos
- photos of exhaust manifold
- how much gain on the dyno just by disconnecting the
exhaust system in front of the cat

:)



--- Bill Cardell <(email redacted)> wrote:
> On the same subject. We have a mazdaspeed on the
> lift right now. Looks like
> someone misplaced the heater core in front of the
> radiator ;-) But I
> digress. They have gone with an oil separator on the
> vc breather. Separator
> is on pax side, hose goes through strut brace to
> valve cover fitting (same
> as normal Miata placement), second hose goes through
> strut brace to comp
> inlet. Third hose drains oil from separator back
> into crankcase. Special oil
> pan has flanges for turbo oil return line and for
> oil separator drain line.
> Looks like rear muffler is same, so aftermarket will
> bolt up. Mid-pipe
> definitely will not.
> Real nice metallic red, too. More to come as we
> "experiment" today.
>
> Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
> (email redacted)
> Flyin' Miata
> 1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
> 970-242-3800 (tech support)
> flyinmiata.com
> flyinprotege.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason C [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:38 PM
> To: (email redacted)
> Subject: pictures of cam cover stuffing
>
>
> pages.sbcglobal.net/jcuadra/cam%20cover/
>
> I used 4 copper scrubbers, and 2 Fram crankcase
> filters. The scrubbers
> can be turned inside out after snipping some nylon
> thread at one end, to
> make them easier to form and spread out. The Fram
> filters I placed
> right at the mouth of the fittings that the external
> breather hose and
> the PCV valve are.

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Mail From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>

Well since I'm seeing full boost at less than 4k and I'm feeling this hit at
4.5k or so I doubt it's spool up.

Of course all these are observations from a gauge and the seat of my pants.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason C" <(email redacted)>
To: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>; "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>;
"'Chad J. Douglas'" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


>
> --- Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:
> >
> > Wonder what the hit at 4.5k can be
> >
> > Larry
> >
>
> Poor spoolup? Do you feel the hit even at higher
> gears? With my small turbo, there's a "hit" only in
> 1st gear.

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Mail From: Keith Tanner <(email redacted)>

The 2003 Club Sport weighed in at 2365 wet with a hardtop. On top of the
bracing, there's also some reinforced sections of the unibody that add
weight. If you've driven one of the stiff cars, you can feel a difference.

Keith Tanner
Flyin' Miata
(email redacted)
flyinmiata.com
1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
1-970-242-3800 (tech)

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Cardell
Sent: April 22, 2004 15:10
To: '(email redacted)'; Larry Alster
Cc: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


There's lots of bracing, for one thing. I know Elvis was over 2500 with full
tank.

Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
(email redacted)
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
flyinmiata.com
flyinprotege.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian McCloghrie [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:56 PM
To: Larry Alster
Cc: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


On Apr 22, 2004 "Larry Alster" wrote:
> I put my 1992 track car on the scales Saturday at the track and with the =
> FM I system in it the car weighed 2305. This is not a stripped car but =
> it's not loaded either. Basically a straight A package with 16" 2003 =
> wheels and a rollbar.
>
> I expected the MSM to weigh more.

My 99 leather packet w/ FM2 Weighs 2450 with a full tank of gas, HDHCDD,
and a trailer hitch. How'd they add another hundred pounds to the MSM?

--Ian

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Mail From: Keith Tanner <(email redacted)>

flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php

Keith Tanner
Flyin' Miata
(email redacted)
flyinmiata.com
1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
1-970-242-3800 (tech)

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Mail From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>

Okay questions start

You show your single tip muffler. The dual should fit too???

You say the mid pipe won't fit. Any chance you'll make an adaptor to make
it fit?? The MS downpipe is longer than your downpipe, right??

And last but not least we have to wait till Tuesday for the dyno numbers???
BOOOOOOO!!!!

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Tanner" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


> flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php
>
> Keith Tanner
> Flyin' Miata
> (email redacted)
> flyinmiata.com
> 1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
> 1-970-242-3800 (tech)

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Mail From: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>

Duals will fit, too. Midpipe on the mspeed is actually shorter, but doesn't
include the cat. I'll give you numbers tomorrow, just no graphs. Keith
doesn't let me play in the website.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:35 PM
To: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


Okay questions start

You show your single tip muffler. The dual should fit too???

You say the mid pipe won't fit. Any chance you'll make an adaptor to make
it fit?? The MS downpipe is longer than your downpipe, right??

And last but not least we have to wait till Tuesday for the dyno numbers???
BOOOOOOO!!!!

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Tanner" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:26 PM
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


> flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php
>
> Keith Tanner
> Flyin' Miata
> (email redacted)
> flyinmiata.com
> 1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
> 1-970-242-3800 (tech)

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Mail From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>

Could you use your mid pipe withy an adaptor pipe to reach the front
connection at the downpipe??

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


> Duals will fit, too. Midpipe on the mspeed is actually shorter, but
doesn't
> include the cat. I'll give you numbers tomorrow, just no graphs. Keith
> doesn't let me play in the website.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:35 PM
> To: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> Okay questions start
>
> You show your single tip muffler. The dual should fit too???
>
> You say the mid pipe won't fit. Any chance you'll make an adaptor to make
> it fit?? The MS downpipe is longer than your downpipe, right??
>
> And last but not least we have to wait till Tuesday for the dyno
numbers???
> BOOOOOOO!!!!
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Tanner" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:26 PM
> Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> > flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php
> >
> > Keith Tanner
> > Flyin' Miata
> > (email redacted)
> > flyinmiata.com
> > 1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
> > 1-970-242-3800 (tech)

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Mail From: "Tom Graham" <(email redacted)>

Larry,

I get a surge about 5k with a 1.6, stock ECU and SC. In my case I feel it's
from both timing in the stock ECU being laggy in the advance department and
coming on the cam.

Tom

----- Original Message -----

> Well since I'm seeing full boost at less than 4k and I'm feeling this hit
at
> 4.5k or so I doubt it's spool up.
>
> Of course all these are observations from a gauge and the seat of my
pants.
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason C" <(email redacted)>
> To: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>; "Bill Cardell"
<(email redacted)>;
> "'Chad J. Douglas'" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:30 PM
> Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> >
> > --- Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonder what the hit at 4.5k can be
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> >
> > Poor spoolup? Do you feel the hit even at higher
> > gears? With my small turbo, there's a "hit" only in
> > 1st gear.
>
>

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Mail From: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>

No, our midpipe is longer than your's.

Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
(email redacted)
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
flyinmiata.com
flyinprotege.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:16 AM
To: Bill Cardell; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


Could you use your mid pipe withy an adaptor pipe to reach the front
connection at the downpipe??

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


> Duals will fit, too. Midpipe on the mspeed is actually shorter, but
doesn't
> include the cat. I'll give you numbers tomorrow, just no graphs. Keith
> doesn't let me play in the website.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:35 PM
> To: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> Okay questions start
>
> You show your single tip muffler. The dual should fit too???
>
> You say the mid pipe won't fit. Any chance you'll make an adaptor to make
> it fit?? The MS downpipe is longer than your downpipe, right??
>
> And last but not least we have to wait till Tuesday for the dyno
numbers???
> BOOOOOOO!!!!
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Tanner" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:26 PM
> Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> > flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php
> >
> > Keith Tanner
> > Flyin' Miata
> > (email redacted)
> > flyinmiata.com
> > 1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
> > 1-970-242-3800 (tech)

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Mail From: "Chad J. Douglas" <(email redacted)>

TMI, Bill...TMI.



From: Bill Cardell
Sent: Fri 4/23/2004 12:06 PM
To: 'Larry Alster'; Bill Cardell; (email redacted)
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.=20


No, our midpipe is longer than your's.

Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
(email redacted)
Flyin' Miata
1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
970-242-3800 (tech support)
flyinmiata.com=20
flyinprotege.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:16 AM
To: Bill Cardell; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.=20


Could you use your mid pipe withy an adaptor pipe to reach the front
connection at the downpipe??

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


> Duals will fit, too. Midpipe on the mspeed is actually shorter, but
doesn't
> include the cat. I'll give you numbers tomorrow, just no graphs. Keith
> doesn't let me play in the website.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:35 PM
> To: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> Okay questions start
>
> You show your single tip muffler. The dual should fit too???
>
> You say the mid pipe won't fit. Any chance you'll make an adaptor to make
> it fit?? The MS downpipe is longer than your downpipe, right??
>
> And last but not least we have to wait till Tuesday for the dyno
numbers???
> BOOOOOOO!!!!
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Keith Tanner" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:26 PM
> Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> > flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php
> >
> > Keith Tanner
> > Flyin' Miata
> > (email redacted)
> > flyinmiata.com
> > 1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
> > 1-970-242-3800 (tech)

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Mail From: Marc Kulak <(email redacted)>

:) You guys planning on building an upgrade for the Mazdaspeed? What size is
the dp on the MSM? 2" 2.25" 2.50"?

Later, Marc

>
> No, our midpipe is longer than your's.
>
> Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
> (email redacted)
> Flyin' Miata
> 1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
> 970-242-3800 (tech support)
> flyinmiata.com
> flyinprotege.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:16 AM
> To: Bill Cardell; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> Could you use your mid pipe withy an adaptor pipe to reach the front
> connection at the downpipe??
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> > Duals will fit, too. Midpipe on the mspeed is actually shorter, but
> doesn't
> > include the cat. I'll give you numbers tomorrow, just no graphs. Keith
> > doesn't let me play in the website.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:35 PM
> > To: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
> > Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
> >
> >
> > Okay questions start
> >
> > You show your single tip muffler. The dual should fit too???
> >
> > You say the mid pipe won't fit. Any chance you'll make an adaptor to make
> > it fit?? The MS downpipe is longer than your downpipe, right??
> >
> > And last but not least we have to wait till Tuesday for the dyno
> numbers???
> > BOOOOOOO!!!!
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
> >
> > LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> > Masters Miata
> > RAGS 074
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith Tanner" <(email redacted)>
> > To: <(email redacted)>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:26 PM
> > Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
> >
> >
> > > flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php
> > >
> > > Keith Tanner
> > > Flyin' Miata
> > > (email redacted)
> > > flyinmiata.com
> > > 1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
> > > 1-970-242-3800 (tech)
>

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Mail From: Chris Robertson <(email redacted)>

Ouch! He can't help how long his midpipe is.


--- Bill Cardell <(email redacted)> wrote:
> No, our midpipe is longer than your's.
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
>
> Could you use your mid pipe withy an adaptor pipe to reach the front
> connection at the downpipe??
>
> Larry





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Mail From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>

Okay, I'm confused and will have to look under the car tonight.

I thought your mid pipe attached to the factory header. The MSM looks like
it attaches to the downpipe from the turbo and that is further up next to
the tranny.

Anyway, I'd still like a FM midpipe to fit the MSM system. :)

Larry Alster

1991 "White Knight" CSP #99
1992 "Silver Bullet" EM #17 BEGI System 4.2+
1992 "Honey Bee"
2004 "Whoosh" MazdaSpeed MX-5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>
To: "'Larry Alster'" <(email redacted)>; "Bill Cardell"
<(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.


> No, our midpipe is longer than your's.
>
> Bill Cardell (TurboDog's Dad)
> (email redacted)
> Flyin' Miata
> 1-800-359-6957 (sales only)
> 970-242-3800 (tech support)
> flyinmiata.com
> flyinprotege.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:16 AM
> To: Bill Cardell; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> Could you use your mid pipe withy an adaptor pipe to reach the front
> connection at the downpipe??
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Cardell" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:01 PM
> Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
>
>
> > Duals will fit, too. Midpipe on the mspeed is actually shorter, but
> doesn't
> > include the cat. I'll give you numbers tomorrow, just no graphs. Keith
> > doesn't let me play in the website.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:35 PM
> > To: Keith Tanner; (email redacted)
> > Subject: Re: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
> >
> >
> > Okay questions start
> >
> > You show your single tip muffler. The dual should fit too???
> >
> > You say the mid pipe won't fit. Any chance you'll make an adaptor to
make
> > it fit?? The MS downpipe is longer than your downpipe, right??
> >
> > And last but not least we have to wait till Tuesday for the dyno
> numbers???
> > BOOOOOOO!!!!
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > Whoosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
> >
> > LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> > Masters Miata
> > RAGS 074
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith Tanner" <(email redacted)>
> > To: <(email redacted)>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:26 PM
> > Subject: RE: pictures of cam cover stuffing/mazdaspeed notes.
> >
> >
> > > flyinmiata.com/projects/mazdaspeed.php
> > >
> > > Keith Tanner
> > > Flyin' Miata
> > > (email redacted)
> > > flyinmiata.com
> > > 1-800-FLY-MX5s (orders)
> > > 1-970-242-3800 (tech)

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Did Terry measure it? LOL [treading a fine line there, I know]

Mark


On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Chris Robertson wrote:

> Ouch! He can't help how long his midpipe is.
>
>
> --- Bill Cardell <(email redacted)> wrote:
> > No, our midpipe is longer than your's.
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> >
> > Could you use your mid pipe withy an adaptor pipe to reach the front
> > connection at the downpipe??
> >
> > Larry
>
>
>
>
>
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