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Mail From: "Ross Kuhns" <(email redacted)>

I saw someone reference a comment Bernie made when asked about Danica
Patrick to the effect of "women should wear white...it matches the
appliances" or something like that. I haven't looked hard, but did not see
it anywhere else.

False quote? surely the internets wouldn't lie.

Okay, no more from me, I better not start about the whole USGP thing.

Ross Kuhns


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Eh, Just as well...Tony (George) already had a 3rd row seat :-)

-Bryan

"racer_chuck@comcast" <(email redacted)> wrote:

Bernie would not allow any local (regional?) media through the Speedway
doors for the entire event. Most of his derogatory comments were that the
event was under-promoted locally, yet he wouldn’t let local media in.

Bernie has earned a 2nd row seat in my celebrity plane crash….. what a tool.

-Chuck



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From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:12 PM
To: Keith Tanner; miatapower List
Subject: Re: [mrpca] FIA comments regarding the USGP



Yea but according to Bernie the race is under promoted and under attended.
I did hear one of the announcer say that it is the 2nd or 3rd best attended
race in the series but not according to Bernie.








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From: Keith Tanner


To: miatapower List


Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:02 PM


Subject: RE: [mrpca] FIA comments regarding the USGP





There's one good side. How long has it been since an F1 race received this
much press in the US?

Keith Tanner
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From: Adam Wolf [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 4:25 PM
To: miatapower List
Subject: Re: [mrpca] FIA comments regarding the USGP

I donno. I simply cannot agree with either the FIA or the French-tire'd
teams. So far we've heard the following stories.

1) FIA says that they had a solution with their little speed monitor device
and the spoiled, unsporting Michelin teams wouldn't agree to that solution.
2) The 7 teams say that they were prepared to race for ZERO points! Yes,
they'd forego their ability to score points, they just wanted a safe track
(with a chicane) which the FIA wouldn't allow. Or the ability to change
tires, which the FIA wouldn't allow. Or something. Anything! Which the FIA
wouldn't allow.
3) Mr. George, the owner and meister of The Brickyard states that he was
NEVER ASKED!!!! to change the track or do anything at all. Other news
sources say the FIA & the track officials wouldn't let a chicane be
installed. Hard for Tony George to disallow this when he (reportedly) didn't
ever know about it.
4) Minardi's story is that they were all set to pull into the pit lane also,
but evil Jordan didn't, so they were forced to race. Darn.
5) Michael Jackson sleeps in the same bed with young boys for funsies, and
nothing bad happens.

The facts.
1) No side backed down.
2) Nothing was done to fix the situation.
3) The race sucked.

All the finger pointing in the world will not change the facts. And we will
get to watch the finest finger pointing in the world from the most wealthy
and powerful sources in motorsports. But they won't change the facts.

I personally can't agree with the Teams, the FIA, Michelin, Bernie, or the
California courts. And on a more small-scale note, I can't imagine ever
looking at Michelin seriously again. What poor tires. They robbed us of a
USGP. Maybe something could have been done to allow a race, but the tires
were still ultimately the point of failure.

-Adam
97 Coldside

On 6/20/05, NoGood <(email redacted)> wrote:

Here's a little cross pollination from the Porsche list on this subject

>
> For a change, I find myself in total agreement with the FIA:
>
> 2005 UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX
> 20.06.2005
>
> Formula One is a sporting contest. It must operate to clear rules.
> These
> cannot be negotiated each time a competitor brings the wrong
> equipment to a
> race.
>
> At Indianapolis we were told by Michelin that their tyres would be
> unsafe
> unless their cars were slowed in the main corner. We understood and
> among
> other suggestions offered to help them by monitoring speeds and
> penalising
> any excess. However, the Michelin teams refused to agree unless the
> Bridgestone runners were slowed by the same amount. They suggested a
> chicane.
>
> The Michelin teams seemed unable to understand that this would have
> been
> grossly unfair as well as contrary to the rules. The Bridgestone
> teams had
> suitable tyres. They did not need to slow down. The Michelin teams'
> lack
> of speed through turn 13 would have been a direct result of inferior
> equipment, as often happens in Formula One. It must also be
> remembered that
> the FIA wrote to all of the teams and both tyre manufacturers on June
> 1,
> 2005, to emphasise that "tyres should be built to be reliable under
> all
> circumstances" (see correspondence attached).
>
> A chicane would have forced all cars, including those with tyres
> optimised
> for high-speed, to run on a circuit whose characteristics had changed
> fundamentally - from ultra-high speed (because of turn 13) to very
> slow and
> twisting. It would also have involved changing the circuit without
> following any of the modern safety procedures, possibly with
> implications
> for the cars and their brakes. It is not difficult to imagine the
> reaction
> of an American court had there been an accident (whatever its cause)
> with
> the FIA having to admit it had failed to follow its own rules and
> safety
> procedures.
>
> The reason for this debacle is clear. Each team is allowed to bring
> two
> types of tyre: one an on-the-limit potential race winner, the other a
> back-up which, although slower, is absolutely reliable. Apparently,
> none of
> the Michelin teams brought a back-up to Indianapolis. They
> subsequently
> announced they were flying in new tyres from France but then claimed
> that
> these too were unsafe.
>
> What about the American fans? What about Formula One fans world-wide?
> Rather than boycott the race the Michelin teams should have agreed to
> run at
> reduced speed in turn 13. The rules would have been kept, they would
> have
> earned Championship points and the fans would have had a race. As it
> is, by
> refusing to run unless the FIA broke the rules and handicapped the
> Bridgestone runners, they have damaged themselves and the sport.
>
> It should also be made clear that Formula One Management and
> Indianapolis
> Motor Speedway, as commercial entities, can have no role in the
> enforcement
> of the rules.
>
> To read the correspondence between the FIA and all of the teams and
> both
> tyre manufacturers on June 1 & 2, 2005, please click here
>
> ( fia.com/resources/documents/
> 914355186__20_06_2005_FIA_Michelin_l
> etter.pdf).
>






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