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Mail From: "Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer)" <(email redacted)>


Hi all,

I am kinda toying with the idea of purchasing a Link ECU for use on my
Greddy turboed '91 to better manage fuel and timing (the AFPR setup works
fine, but I would like much more control of what's going on...maybe a ways
off yet, but kinda like to do some research now). I have a question
regarding injector use with the ECU. I currently have 1.8 sized injectors
on my 1.6. I notice that most folks fun 440 injectors. My question is
this: will I NEED to get larger injectors if I decide to go with the Link if
I stay around 10 PSI? Are there any cheaper alternatives that would work
well with the Link rather than the expensice RCs? Thanks for any info you
can provide...

-Nathan Ramsey
NT Mobile, PC Card Test Team

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Mail From: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>


Nathan,
You will need larger injectors, as you will no longer be "fooling" little
injectors into thinking they're big enough with high pressure. And no, you
don't want to leave the fpr on with the link to avoid buying the injectors.
Others may have lines on cheap alternative injectors, some of the Mitsu
stuff works, I believe.


Bill Cardell
The Dealer Alternative, Inc
dlralt.com
200mphmiata.net
1-800-FLY-MX5S (orders only)
1-970-242-3800 (tech)


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:40 AM
To: Power List
Subject: Injectors with FM ECU



Hi all,

I am kinda toying with the idea of purchasing a Link ECU for use on my
Greddy turboed '91 to better manage fuel and timing (the AFPR setup works
fine, but I would like much more control of what's going on...maybe a ways
off yet, but kinda like to do some research now). I have a question
regarding injector use with the ECU. I currently have 1.8 sized injectors
on my 1.6. I notice that most folks fun 440 injectors. My question is
this: will I NEED to get larger injectors if I decide to go with the Link if
I stay around 10 PSI? Are there any cheaper alternatives that would work
well with the Link rather than the expensice RCs? Thanks for any info you
can provide...

-Nathan Ramsey
NT Mobile, PC Card Test Team

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Mail From: (email redacted)




Hi,
Not to sound too harsh, but you are considering buying a $1250
computer and you want to scrimp on the fuel system??? No offense but you
will find this counter productive. The secret to a good power producing
motor is to carefully match the components as best you can. While you can
use the cheaper Mitsu parts you should still have them balanced to each
other and professionally cleaned.

You will be disappointed if you try to tune around the ECU with the
FPR.

There are 4 good reasons to go with the ECU.

1. It gets rid of the MAF sensor and allows you to rework the intake tract
dramatically.

2. You CAN (and should) run larger injectors.

3. It is less cumbersome and offers more precise tuning than other methods
of trickery (AFPR's, Piggybacks, and bandaid systems.) It self tunes too!

4. Adjustable boost control.

Mark


>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am kinda toying with the idea of purchasing a Link ECU for use on my
> Greddy turboed '91 to better manage fuel and timing (the AFPR setup works
> fine, but I would like much more control of what's going on...maybe a ways
> off yet, but kinda like to do some research now). I have a question
> regarding injector use with the ECU. I currently have 1.8 sized injectors
> on my 1.6. I notice that most folks fun 440 injectors. My question is
> this: will I NEED to get larger injectors if I decide to go with the Link if
> I stay around 10 PSI? Are there any cheaper alternatives that would work
> well with the Link rather than the expensice RCs? Thanks for any info you
> can provide...
>
> -Nathan Ramsey
> NT Mobile, PC Card Test Team
>
>

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Mail From: "Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer)" <(email redacted)>


Thanks Bill. I don't plan on leaving the AFPR on there, but would it be ok
to leave the Pierburg pump inline or would I look at getting a walbro intank
replacement?

Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Cardell [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 10:51 AM
To: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer); Power List
Subject: RE: Injectors with FM ECU


Nathan,
You will need larger injectors, as you will no longer be "fooling" little
injectors into thinking they're big enough with high pressure. And no, you
don't want to leave the fpr on with the link to avoid buying the injectors.
Others may have lines on cheap alternative injectors, some of the Mitsu
stuff works, I believe.


Bill Cardell
The Dealer Alternative, Inc
dlralt.com
200mphmiata.net
1-800-FLY-MX5S (orders only)
1-970-242-3800 (tech)


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:40 AM
To: Power List
Subject: Injectors with FM ECU



Hi all,

I am kinda toying with the idea of purchasing a Link ECU for use on my
Greddy turboed '91 to better manage fuel and timing (the AFPR setup works
fine, but I would like much more control of what's going on...maybe a ways
off yet, but kinda like to do some research now). I have a question
regarding injector use with the ECU. I currently have 1.8 sized injectors
on my 1.6. I notice that most folks fun 440 injectors. My question is
this: will I NEED to get larger injectors if I decide to go with the Link if
I stay around 10 PSI? Are there any cheaper alternatives that would work
well with the Link rather than the expensice RCs? Thanks for any info you
can provide...

-Nathan Ramsey
NT Mobile, PC Card Test Team

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Mail From: "Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer)" <(email redacted)>


Thanks Mark...points taken. I was not intending to scrimp on the system, I
was just looking to find out whether the 440s were pretty much the bottom
line. I think I will go ahead and get the 440s when I end up purchasing the
ECU. Thanks for the info.

Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:06 AM
To: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer)
Cc: (email redacted)
Subject: Re: Injectors with FM ECU




Hi,
Not to sound too harsh, but you are considering buying a $1250
computer and you want to scrimp on the fuel system??? No offense but you
will find this counter productive. The secret to a good power producing
motor is to carefully match the components as best you can. While you can
use the cheaper Mitsu parts you should still have them balanced to each
other and professionally cleaned.

You will be disappointed if you try to tune around the ECU with the
FPR.

There are 4 good reasons to go with the ECU.

1. It gets rid of the MAF sensor and allows you to rework the intake tract
dramatically.

2. You CAN (and should) run larger injectors.

3. It is less cumbersome and offers more precise tuning than other methods
of trickery (AFPR's, Piggybacks, and bandaid systems.) It self tunes too!

4. Adjustable boost control.

Mark


>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am kinda toying with the idea of purchasing a Link ECU for use on my
> Greddy turboed '91 to better manage fuel and timing (the AFPR setup works
> fine, but I would like much more control of what's going on...maybe a ways
> off yet, but kinda like to do some research now). I have a question
> regarding injector use with the ECU. I currently have 1.8 sized injectors
> on my 1.6. I notice that most folks fun 440 injectors. My question is
> this: will I NEED to get larger injectors if I decide to go with the Link
if
> I stay around 10 PSI? Are there any cheaper alternatives that would work
> well with the Link rather than the expensice RCs? Thanks for any info you
> can provide...
>
> -Nathan Ramsey
> NT Mobile, PC Card Test Team
>
>

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Mail From: Bill Cardell <(email redacted)>


Nate,
You can sell the Pierburg and run your stock pump.

Bill Cardell
(email redacted)
Flyin' Miata
flyinmiata.com
200mphmiata.net
1-800-FLY-MX5S (orders only)
1-970-242-3800 (tech)


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 12:28 PM
To: 'Bill Cardell'; Power List
Subject: RE: Injectors with FM ECU



Thanks Bill. I don't plan on leaving the AFPR on there, but would it be ok
to leave the Pierburg pump inline or would I look at getting a walbro intank
replacement?

Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Cardell [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 10:51 AM
To: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer); Power List
Subject: RE: Injectors with FM ECU


Nathan,
You will need larger injectors, as you will no longer be "fooling" little
injectors into thinking they're big enough with high pressure. And no, you
don't want to leave the fpr on with the link to avoid buying the injectors.
Others may have lines on cheap alternative injectors, some of the Mitsu
stuff works, I believe.


Bill Cardell
The Dealer Alternative, Inc
dlralt.com
200mphmiata.net
1-800-FLY-MX5S (orders only)
1-970-242-3800 (tech)


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:40 AM
To: Power List
Subject: Injectors with FM ECU



Hi all,

I am kinda toying with the idea of purchasing a Link ECU for use on my
Greddy turboed '91 to better manage fuel and timing (the AFPR setup works
fine, but I would like much more control of what's going on...maybe a ways
off yet, but kinda like to do some research now). I have a question
regarding injector use with the ECU. I currently have 1.8 sized injectors
on my 1.6. I notice that most folks fun 440 injectors. My question is
this: will I NEED to get larger injectors if I decide to go with the Link if
I stay around 10 PSI? Are there any cheaper alternatives that would work
well with the Link rather than the expensice RCs? Thanks for any info you
can provide...

-Nathan Ramsey
NT Mobile, PC Card Test Team

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Mail From: (email redacted)


Nathan,

FYI, I just took out my Pierburg last night. I heard that it was OK to
leave it on the car, so I did for 3 months. Finally, I decided to take it
out since the noise of it got on my nerve. Surprisingly, the car run
smoother without it. I am not sure if it was because my Pierburg was
defected, but the car runs much better now.

-Clive

-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer)
To: 'Bill Cardell'; Power List
Sent: 9/1/00 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Injectors with FM ECU


Thanks Bill. I don't plan on leaving the AFPR on there, but would it be
ok
to leave the Pierburg pump inline or would I look at getting a walbro
intank
replacement?

Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Cardell [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 10:51 AM
To: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer); Power List
Subject: RE: Injectors with FM ECU


Nathan,
You will need larger injectors, as you will no longer be "fooling"
little
injectors into thinking they're big enough with high pressure. And no,
you
don't want to leave the fpr on with the link to avoid buying the
injectors.
Others may have lines on cheap alternative injectors, some of the Mitsu
stuff works, I believe.


Bill Cardell
The Dealer Alternative, Inc
dlralt.com
200mphmiata.net
1-800-FLY-MX5S (orders only)
1-970-242-3800 (tech)


-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer) [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:40 AM
To: Power List
Subject: Injectors with FM ECU



Hi all,

I am kinda toying with the idea of purchasing a Link ECU for use on my
Greddy turboed '91 to better manage fuel and timing (the AFPR setup
works
fine, but I would like much more control of what's going on...maybe a
ways
off yet, but kinda like to do some research now). I have a question
regarding injector use with the ECU. I currently have 1.8 sized
injectors
on my 1.6. I notice that most folks fun 440 injectors. My question is
this: will I NEED to get larger injectors if I decide to go with the
Link if
I stay around 10 PSI? Are there any cheaper alternatives that would
work
well with the Link rather than the expensice RCs? Thanks for any info
you
can provide...

-Nathan Ramsey
NT Mobile, PC Card Test Team

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Mail From: (email redacted)



Actually I had the 550's when I had my FM-ECU... they give you some more
room for higher boost... but Bill's defaults are setup for the 440's IIRC.

Mark

>
>
> Thanks Mark...points taken. I was not intending to scrimp on the system, I
> was just looking to find out whether the 440s were pretty much the bottom
> line. I think I will go ahead and get the 440s when I end up purchasing the
> ECU. Thanks for the info.
>
> Nate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 11:06 AM
> To: Nathan Ramsey (Volt Computer)
> Cc: (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: Injectors with FM ECU
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
> Not to sound too harsh, but you are considering buying a $1250
> computer and you want to scrimp on the fuel system??? No offense but you
> will find this counter productive. The secret to a good power producing
> motor is to carefully match the components as best you can. While you can
> use the cheaper Mitsu parts you should still have them balanced to each
> other and professionally cleaned.
>
> You will be disappointed if you try to tune around the ECU with the
> FPR.
>
> There are 4 good reasons to go with the ECU.
>
> 1. It gets rid of the MAF sensor and allows you to rework the intake tract
> dramatically.
>
> 2. You CAN (and should) run larger injectors.
>
> 3. It is less cumbersome and offers more precise tuning than other methods
> of trickery (AFPR's, Piggybacks, and bandaid systems.) It self tunes too!
>
> 4. Adjustable boost control.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am kinda toying with the idea of purchasing a Link ECU for use on my
> > Greddy turboed '91 to better manage fuel and timing (the AFPR setup works
> > fine, but I would like much more control of what's going on...maybe a ways
> > off yet, but kinda like to do some research now). I have a question
> > regarding injector use with the ECU. I currently have 1.8 sized injectors
> > on my 1.6. I notice that most folks fun 440 injectors. My question is
> > this: will I NEED to get larger injectors if I decide to go with the Link
> if
> > I stay around 10 PSI? Are there any cheaper alternatives that would work
> > well with the Link rather than the expensice RCs? Thanks for any info you
> > can provide...
> >
> > -Nathan Ramsey
> > NT Mobile, PC Card Test Team
> >
> >
>