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Mail From: "Harry" <(email redacted)>

This person placed an ad on the Miata Wanted Section on Miata.net.

Botton line I bent over backwards for this guy and he is stiffing me for the
shipping and COD charges $20.00 plus. He says he is buying elsewhere if this
is true the new seller should beware!!!

He is blacked list in my circle and should be in yours. Spead the word
before
he rip someone else off and more importantly waste their time.

Harry

> > > > > >From: (email redacted)
> > > > > >To: (email redacted)
> > > > > >Subject: Reply To Ad - turbo kit wanted
> > > > > >Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:41:44 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > >
>===========================================================================
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> > > > >
>===========================================================================
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> > > > > >BELOW IS A REPLY TO YOUR CLASSIFIED AD
> > > > >
>===========================================================================
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> > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >Ad Headline: turbo kit wanted
> > > > > >Posted To: Miata.net Classifieds
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I have a brand new 1.6l (fits 91) greddy turbo kit for sale. It
includes everything but
> > > > > >the turbo and FPR.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The FPR that comes with the kit is flimsy anyway :) This kit was
never
> > > > > >installed. It really is brand new. I bought it to build my own
kit and used it
> > > > > >to template a few of the parts. I bought it off of a guy for
$550.00 a few
> > > > > >months back
> > > > > >
> > > > > >(I assume he has the turbo, who cares really the turbo is really
tiny anyway)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >You can buy a real turbo and FPR that works with the kit for much
less than the
> > > > > >purchase price of a complete kit...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I am done with it so I would be willing to sell it to you for the
price I paid
> > > > > >if you are interested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I comes with all the hardware, lines, hoses, clamps, manifold,
plumbing, air
> > > > > >filter etc. all brand new!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Let me know,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Harry
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Harry Blanchard
> > > > > >(email redacted)

His reply after a few emails of explaining and verifying contents of the
kit...


> OK I want it, below is my address, so like I said I pay $550 let me know
when it ship out so i get you money order ready
>
> VU TRAN
> 2120 TEHAMA AVE
> SAN JOSE CA 95122

Then follwed up with...


From: "Harry Blanchard" <(email redacted)>
To: "KEVIN LEE" <(email redacted)>
Subject: Re: Reply To Ad - turbo kit wanted
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:37:23 -0500


The package was shipped on thursday.

Thanks again...



He replies a day later

so where is the tracking #?



Then mins later responded in this way...

I waited for you for 2 days and i didn't get the answer so i bought the
other kit from miata.net for $1300 already, you should contact me earlier.
So???????????????????


From: "Harry Blanchard" <(email redacted)>
To: "KEVIN LEE" <(email redacted)>
Subject: Re: Reply To Ad - turbo kit wanted
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:37:23 -0500


The package was shipped on thursday.

Thanks again...

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Mail From: "Lucie Edwards" <(email redacted)>


Excuse me, but am I to understand that you shipped a $550 turbo kit FIRST...

and THEN, he was going to mail you a money order? !!!

Wow, send me your miata....I'll mail you a check later. Seriously, I'd say
you pushed the "honor system" a little far on that one. Good luck.

Lucie

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Mail From: (email redacted)

In a message dated 3/11/2002 6:28:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
(email redacted) writes:


> Excuse me, but am I to understand that you shipped a $550 turbo kit FIRST...
>
> and THEN, he was going to mail you a money order? !!!
>
> Wow, send me your miata....I'll mail you a check later. Seriously, I'd say
> you pushed the "honor system" a little far on that one. Good luck.
>
> Lucie
>

Somebody's gotta go first, unless you want to set up an escrow account, or
ship cod. Even with cod you can get stiffed for the shipping. Things work
easier with trust, that's why he was calling the offender out.

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Mail From: Wallyman <(email redacted)>

I've been doing a lot of buying online lately, but $550? Not on your
life.. Paypal, Money order or bank transfer, or it's no deal.. Trust is one
thing, but that's nuts!

A money order is $1.00 plus a stamp and a week.. it's not that bad to wait,
and there's no way to get screwed.. no $$$, no loss.

All IMHO, of course.. YMMV.

Wallyman


At 09:44 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, (email redacted) wrote:
>In a message dated 3/11/2002 6:28:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>(email redacted) writes:
>
>
>>Excuse me, but am I to understand that you shipped a $550 turbo kit FIRST...
>>
>>and THEN, he was going to mail you a money order? !!!
>>
>>Wow, send me your miata....I'll mail you a check later. Seriously, I'd say
>>you pushed the "honor system" a little far on that one. Good luck.
>>
>>Lucie
>
>
>Somebody's gotta go first, unless you want to set up an escrow account, or
>ship cod. Even with cod you can get stiffed for the shipping. Things
>work easier with trust, that's why he was calling the offender out.

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Mail From: "Brad Franks" <(email redacted)>

On the flip side of that, what insurance do I have that you are actually
going to send me something after my check clears the bank?

I got royally screwed on eBay because of something like this. I used
whatever the eBay version of PayPal was at the request of the buyer. Took
$350 for an NOS Progressive Nitrous Controller and sent it to him in Canada.
Turns out that the credit card was reported as stolen and I had to forfeit
the money to eBay. Their excuse "Card signature not verified by the seller."
WTF?

I sent them all the appropriate information from UPS including the shipping
name and address, the credit card name, and the name of the person who
signed when it was delivered. They all matched. Even worse was that I looked
up the fella's address on the internet and it matched the location where I
shipped it to. I actually *did* send it to the right person on the card but
they played a loophole on me. I tried going through the USPS for mail fraud
but the invlaidated it for two reasons - 1. I didn't ship with USPS and 2.
It was international. I tried explaining my case to eBay but they wouldn't
even give me a phone number to call, only communication was through email.

I still have his address on record, I might just have to find a cheap flight
for me and Vinnie to go meet the guy. Oh wait, I'm a trained killer in the
US Army, I don't need to bring Vinnie along! I'll finally have a real world
application of my infantry skills! I could even screw with his mind first
and apply some good old fashioned PsyOp on him, then I'd get to use *two*
Army skills!

Brad

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----- Original Message -----
From: Wallyman
To: (email redacted) ; (email redacted) ; (email redacted)
Cc: (email redacted)
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Fellow Miata lovers and retailers


I've been doing a lot of buying online lately, but $550? Not on your life..
Paypal, Money order or bank transfer, or it's no deal.. Trust is one thing,
but that's nuts!

A money order is $1.00 plus a stamp and a week.. it's not that bad to wait,
and there's no way to get screwed.. no $$$, no loss.

All IMHO, of course.. YMMV.

Wallyman


At 09:44 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, (email redacted) wrote:

In a message dated 3/11/2002 6:28:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
(email redacted) writes:



Excuse me, but am I to understand that you shipped a $550 turbo kit FIRST...

and THEN, he was going to mail you a money order? !!!

Wow, send me your miata....I'll mail you a check later. Seriously, I'd say
you pushed the "honor system" a little far on that one. Good luck.

Lucie


Somebody's gotta go first, unless you want to set up an escrow account, or
ship cod. Even with cod you can get stiffed for the shipping. Things work
easier with trust, that's why he was calling the offender out.

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


On this list, most of the people I would trust easy with up to about $1000
or so. I have been friends with many people on this list for far too long
not to trust them.

Mark


On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Wallyman wrote:

> I've been doing a lot of buying online lately, but $550? Not on your
> life.. Paypal, Money order or bank transfer, or it's no deal.. Trust is one
> thing, but that's nuts!
>
> A money order is $1.00 plus a stamp and a week.. it's not that bad to wait,
> and there's no way to get screwed.. no $$$, no loss.
>
> All IMHO, of course.. YMMV.
>
> Wallyman
>
>
> At 09:44 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, (email redacted) wrote:
> >In a message dated 3/11/2002 6:28:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >(email redacted) writes:
> >
> >
> >>Excuse me, but am I to understand that you shipped a $550 turbo kit FIRST...
> >>
> >>and THEN, he was going to mail you a money order? !!!
> >>
> >>Wow, send me your miata....I'll mail you a check later. Seriously, I'd say
> >>you pushed the "honor system" a little far on that one. Good luck.
> >>
> >>Lucie
> >
> >
> >Somebody's gotta go first, unless you want to set up an escrow account, or
> >ship cod. Even with cod you can get stiffed for the shipping. Things
> >work easier with trust, that's why he was calling the offender out.
>

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Mail From: "Harry" <(email redacted)>

It was sent COD and Money order is only accepted. www.UPS.com if you do not=
know what COD is.

The problem is that if the buyer refuses the package you are stuck paying f=
or the shipping.

I try and NEVER do COD because of this kind of behavior.

Harry
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Wallyman=20
To: (email redacted) ; (email redacted) ; (email redacted)=
=20
Cc: (email redacted)=20
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Fellow Miata lovers and retailers


I've been doing a lot of buying online lately, but $550? Not on your lif=
e.. Paypal, Money order or bank transfer, or it's no deal.. Trust is one th=
ing, but that's nuts!

A money order is $1.00 plus a stamp and a week.. it's not that bad to wai=
t, and there's no way to get screwed.. no $$$, no loss.

All IMHO, of course.. YMMV.

Wallyman


At 09:44 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, (email redacted) wrote:

In a message dated 3/11/2002 6:28:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, silkydog=
@earthlink.net writes:



Excuse me, but am I to understand that you shipped a $550 turbo kit F=
IRST...

and THEN, he was going to mail you a money order? !!!

Wow, send me your miata....I'll mail you a check later. Seriously, I'=
d say
you pushed the "honor system" a little far on that one. Good luck.

Lucie


Somebody's gotta go first, unless you want to set up an escrow account,=
or ship cod. Even with cod you can get stiffed for the shipping. Things=
work easier with trust, that's why he was calling the offender out.=20

This read-only message was archived from a public mail list.
Mail From: (email redacted)

In a message dated 3/11/2002 6:54:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
(email redacted) writes:


> I've been doing a lot of buying online lately, but $550? Not on your life..
> Paypal, Money order or bank transfer, or it's no deal.. Trust is one thing,
> but that's nuts!
>
> A money order is $1.00 plus a stamp and a week.. it's not that bad to wait,
> and there's no way to get screwed.. no $$$, no loss.
>
> All IMHO, of course.. YMMV.

Still, someone's gotta go first.

Sheldon