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Mail From: "Ray" <(email redacted)>

The only free tests around here are free re-tests if that shop performs the
required repairs. And yes, all tests, good or bad, are saved by the DMV.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry" <(email redacted)>
To: "MiataPowerPost" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 5:15 PM
Subject: Does CA Red Flag first time "Smog Fails" (NPC)


Hey California Guys in particular:

Do we have anything to loose if the car fails the first time around? I am
thinking about doing a "pre-smog check" dyno session. Now, I realize that
some places won't charge if you fail. So, from a cost perspective, it makes
sense to just get checked. BUT! If you DO fail does your car somehow go on
record as *having failed*??.... Some kind of notorious Smog Check Red Flag
in your file?

If so, it would seem that the *expense* of Smog tuning the car on the Dyno
to get a "Smog MAP" file, would be worth it. Of course .....since I am there
anyway why not get tuned it for the *track* also ;-)

Feedback?

Thanks

Harry T
miata.cardomain.com/id/hlt94
1991 Red; 1.6; Link'd SC; 13psi; JR Header/Cat/Exhaust; 61mm Nose & 155mm
Crank; Spax Coil overs; A520's; FM Big Brakes; Torsen upgrade; 1.8 Stage 1
Clutch & Fidenza Lightened Flywheel; MOMO top power; Racing Beat Nose &
fairings; Mid Tenn Euro Light Conversion

This read-only message was archived from a public mail list.
Mail From: "Harry" <(email redacted)>

Hey California Guys in particular:

Do we have anything to loose if the car fails the first time around? I am t=
hinking about doing a "pre-smog check" dyno session. Now, I realize that s=
ome places won't charge if you fail. So, from a cost perspective, it makes =
sense to just get checked. BUT! If you DO fail does your car somehow go on=
record as *having failed*??.... Some kind of notorious Smog Check Red Flag=
in your file?=20

If so, it would seem that the *expense* of Smog tuning the car on the Dyno=
to get a "Smog MAP" file, would be worth it. Of course .....since I am the=
re anyway why not get tuned it for the *track* also ;-)

Feedback?

Thanks

Harry T
miata.cardomain.com/id/hlt94=20
1991 Red; 1.6; Link'd SC; 13psi; JR Header/Cat/Exhaust; 61mm Nose & 155mm
Crank; Spax Coil overs; A520's; FM Big Brakes; Torsen upgrade; 1.8 Stage 1
Clutch & Fidenza Lightened Flywheel; MOMO top power; Racing Beat Nose &
fairings; Mid Tenn Euro Light Conversion=20

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Mail From: "Lucie Edwards" <(email redacted)>

I'd suggest you go ahead and pay the $40 and tell them outfront you want a
"pretest" only. This will give you the numbers, but the data will NOT be
sent to the DMV. If you do pass, you will have to pay another $40 and
retest, this time with the data submitted to the DMV.

Yes, it's a good idea. It saved my bacon. My pretest came back as a "Gross
Polluter". Had that data gone to the DMV, my options would have narrowed
considerably. Not a good thing.

Lucie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray" <(email redacted)>
To: "Harry" <(email redacted)>; "MiataPowerPost" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: Does CA Red Flag first time "Smog Fails" (NPC)


> The only free tests around here are free re-tests if that shop performs
the
> required repairs. And yes, all tests, good or bad, are saved by the DMV.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry" <(email redacted)>
> To: "MiataPowerPost" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 5:15 PM
> Subject: Does CA Red Flag first time "Smog Fails" (NPC)
>
>
> Hey California Guys in particular:
>
> Do we have anything to loose if the car fails the first time around? I am
> thinking about doing a "pre-smog check" dyno session. Now, I realize that
> some places won't charge if you fail. So, from a cost perspective, it
makes
> sense to just get checked. BUT! If you DO fail does your car somehow go
on
> record as *having failed*??.... Some kind of notorious Smog Check Red Flag
> in your file?
>
> If so, it would seem that the *expense* of Smog tuning the car on the
Dyno
> to get a "Smog MAP" file, would be worth it. Of course .....since I am
there
> anyway why not get tuned it for the *track* also ;-)
>
> Feedback?
>
> Thanks
>
> Harry T
> miata.cardomain.com/id/hlt94
> 1991 Red; 1.6; Link'd SC; 13psi; JR Header/Cat/Exhaust; 61mm Nose & 155mm
> Crank; Spax Coil overs; A520's; FM Big Brakes; Torsen upgrade; 1.8 Stage 1
> Clutch & Fidenza Lightened Flywheel; MOMO top power; Racing Beat Nose &
> fairings; Mid Tenn Euro Light Conversion
>
>

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Mail From: (email redacted)


And you want to pass by a decent margin. Otherwise, next time you will
probably be flagged for a "test only" station. Not a disaster, but fewer
options, as Lucie suggests. And, test only stations are more likely to be
rule sticklers, as that is their only business. So, if you have anything too
obviously not covered by an EO, they won't hook you up.

Sheldon

In a message dated 9/2/2002 11:37:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
(email redacted) writes:


>
> I'd suggest you go ahead and pay the $40 and tell them outfront you want a
> "pretest" only. This will give you the numbers, but the data will NOT be
> sent to the DMV. If you do pass, you will have to pay another $40 and
> retest, this time with the data submitted to the DMV.
>
> Yes, it's a good idea. It saved my bacon. My pretest came back as a "Gross
> Polluter". Had that data gone to the DMV, my options would have narrowed
> considerably. Not a good thing.
>
> Lucie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray" <(email redacted)>
> To: "Harry" <(email redacted)>; "MiataPowerPost" <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 3:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Does CA Red Flag first time "Smog Fails" (NPC)
>
>
> > The only free tests around here are free re-tests if that shop performs
> the
> > required repairs. And yes, all tests, good or bad, are saved by the DMV.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harry" <(email redacted)>
> > To: "MiataPowerPost" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
> > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 5:15 PM
> > Subject: Does CA Red Flag first time "Smog Fails" (NPC)
> >
> >
> > Hey California Guys in particular:
> >
> > Do we have anything to loose if the car fails the first time around? I am
> > thinking about doing a "pre-smog check" dyno session. Now, I realize
> that
> > some places won't charge if you fail. So, from a cost perspective, it
> makes
> > sense to just get checked. BUT! If you DO fail does your car somehow go
> on
> > record as *having failed*??.... Some kind of notorious Smog Check Red
> Flag
> > in your file?
> >
> > If so, it would seem that the *expense* of Smog tuning the car on the
> Dyno
> > to get a "Smog MAP" file, would be worth it. Of course .....since I am
> there
> > anyway why not get tuned it for the *track* also ;-)
> >
> > Feedback?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Harry T
> > miata.cardomain.com/id/hlt94
> > 1991 Red; 1.6; Link'd SC; 13psi; JR Header/Cat/Exhaust; 61mm Nose & 155mm
> > Crank; Spax Coil overs; A520's; FM Big Brakes; Torsen upgrade; 1.8 Stage
> 1
> > Clutch & Fidenza Lightened Flywheel; MOMO top power; Racing Beat Nose &
> > fairings; Mid Tenn Euro Light Conversion
>