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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
first I would like some feedback.

www.networkone.net/~mark/tb


Mark

PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.

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Mail From: "Fred Hubert" <(email redacted)>

Looks much bigger, and I expect it would be better than trying to overbore
the current one.

But it really boils down to what the benefits are vs. the cost...

~ Fred

>-- Original Message --
>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:10:56 -0800 (PST)
>From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>
>To: (email redacted)
>Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...
>
>
>
>I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
>first I would like some feedback.
>
>www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
>
>
>Mark
>
>PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
>
>
>

"First In Synthetics"
NewEnglandSynthetics.com
"Certified AMSOIL Dealer"

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Mail From: "BENNETT,TIMOTHY (A-ColSprings,ex1)" <(email redacted)>

What's the advantage of this throttle body over the one
I already have???

Ignorant and curious,

Tim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Peugeot [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:11 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...



I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
first I would like some feedback.

www.networkone.net/~mark/tb


Mark

PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


If I had 20 sold I could get them down to about $295.00

Otherwise they are $395.00

Mark



On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Fred Hubert wrote:

> Looks much bigger, and I expect it would be better than trying to overbore
> the current one.
>
> But it really boils down to what the benefits are vs. the cost...
>
> ~ Fred
>
> >-- Original Message --
> >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:10:56 -0800 (PST)
> >From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>
> >To: (email redacted)
> >Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...
> >
> >
> >
> >I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> >first I would like some feedback.
> >
> >www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
> >
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
> >
> >
> >
>
> "First In Synthetics"
> NewEnglandSynthetics.com
> "Certified AMSOIL Dealer"
>
>

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


Well the one you have now is fine until you try and move lots of air
through it, then it becomes a restrictor. I suspect only serious power
junkies will want it... Rick, Danny... ;)


Mark



On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, BENNETT,TIMOTHY (A-ColSprings,ex1) wrote:

> What's the advantage of this throttle body over the one
> I already have???
>
> Ignorant and curious,
>
> Tim.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Peugeot [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: (email redacted)
> Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...
>
>
>
> I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> first I would like some feedback.
>
> www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
>
>
> Mark
>
> PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
>
>
>

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Mail From: (email redacted)

In a message dated 3/28/02 5:18:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
(email redacted) writes:


> I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> first I would like some feedback.
>
> www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
>
>
> Mark
>
> PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
>
>
>
>

They look nice.....but why would you want one? There are a number of
aftermarket pieces that can be used if you want a bigger TB. I'm not sure
that the stock piece is even a restriction for FI at less than 300 rwhp or so.

Gibb

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Mail From: Toby Weir-Jones <(email redacted)>

Have you put one on the flowbench yet? how bout the stock piece?

twj

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Peugeot [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:27 PM
> To: Fred Hubert
> Cc: Miata Power List
> Subject: RE: Billet Throttle Bodies...
>
>
>
> If I had 20 sold I could get them down to about $295.00
>
> Otherwise they are $395.00
>
> Mark
>
>

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Mail From: Ian McCloghrie <(email redacted)>

On Mar 28, 2002 Mark Peugeot wrote:
> Well the one you have now is fine until you try and move lots of air
> through it, then it becomes a restrictor. I suspect only serious power
> junkies will want it... Rick, Danny... ;)

Of course, if the intercooler piping is the same diameter as the
existing throttle body, then you're just moving the restriction
elsewhere.

I know 5.0 Mustang guys regularly go with bigger throttle bodies, but
it doesn't add much unless they do the whole package, intake manifold,
throttle body, MAF sensor, etc.

--Ian

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


Well because they look cool and because they allow you to still use the
stock Idle air control and TPS sensor. :) Plus they will flow a lot more
than a 55mm, shiv claimed to pick up power going to the larger TB.

Mark



On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, (email redacted) wrote:

> In a message dated 3/28/02 5:18:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> (email redacted) writes:
>
>
> > I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> > first I would like some feedback.
> >
> > www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> They look nice.....but why would you want one? There are a number of
> aftermarket pieces that can be used if you want a bigger TB. I'm not sure
> that the stock piece is even a restriction for FI at less than 300 rwhp or so.
>
> Gibb
>

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


Obviously I will need to do that tonight.

Mark


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Toby Weir-Jones wrote:

> Have you put one on the flowbench yet? how bout the stock piece?
>
> twj
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Peugeot [mailto:(email redacted)]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:27 PM
> > To: Fred Hubert
> > Cc: Miata Power List
> > Subject: RE: Billet Throttle Bodies...
> >
> >
> >
> > If I had 20 sold I could get them down to about $295.00
> >
> > Otherwise they are $395.00
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
>

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


You are absolutely right, The Mustang guys get good gains though just by
increasing the MAF and the TB size though, it is nearly the first thing
they all do.

Mark


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Ian McCloghrie wrote:

> On Mar 28, 2002 Mark Peugeot wrote:
> > Well the one you have now is fine until you try and move lots of air
> > through it, then it becomes a restrictor. I suspect only serious power
> > junkies will want it... Rick, Danny... ;)
>
> Of course, if the intercooler piping is the same diameter as the
> existing throttle body, then you're just moving the restriction
> elsewhere.
>
> I know 5.0 Mustang guys regularly go with bigger throttle bodies, but
> it doesn't add much unless they do the whole package, intake manifold,
> throttle body, MAF sensor, etc.
>
> --Ian
>

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


No but I will tonight...

Mark


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Toby Weir-Jones wrote:

> Have you put one on the flowbench yet? how bout the stock piece?
>
> twj
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Peugeot [mailto:(email redacted)]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:27 PM
> > To: Fred Hubert
> > Cc: Miata Power List
> > Subject: RE: Billet Throttle Bodies...
> >
> >
> >
> > If I had 20 sold I could get them down to about $295.00
> >
> > Otherwise they are $395.00
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
>

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Mail From: "Tom Graham" <(email redacted)>

Hi Gibb,

The throttle body is more of a restriction with a SC engine than turbo. The
restriction of the stock throttle body goes up the square of the speed
increase through the TB. Double the air with a SC and the restriction
quadruples. The same increase of air in a turbo doesn't increase the air
flow past the TB. The air is denser but the same speed past the TB so the
restriction increase is linear. The SC is also more restricted since it's
drive is fixed. The larger TB should benefit the SC.

Tom Graham,
Columbus, Ohio,
Red- GO TOM GO
'89 1.6, Sebring, 1.8 nose pulley, 1.8 injectors, RX-7 AFM, MSD-Bipes
Mod/16* base timing, Hood rubbing outlet manifold, 180* thermostat, 2.375"
exhaust,Homemade Water Injection pre blower,
AGX/stock springs, Moss sways, Homemade end links, Homemade braces, 14"
RE-71

----- Original Message -----
From: <(email redacted)>

I'm not sure
> that the stock piece is even a restriction for FI at less than 300 rwhp or
so.
>
> Gibb
>

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Mail From: Larry Alster <(email redacted)>

Cost?? Engine fitment??


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow

LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Peugeot" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:10 PM
Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...


>
> I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> first I would like some feedback.
>
> www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
>
>
> Mark
>
> PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
>
>
>

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Mail From: (email redacted)

In a message dated 3/28/02 5:44:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
(email redacted) writes:


> Well because they look cool and because they allow you to still use the
> stock Idle air control and TPS sensor. :) Plus they will flow a lot more
> than a 55mm, shiv claimed to pick up power going to the larger TB.
>
> Mark
>

They do look cool. I'd love to see a back to back dyno of one versus the
stock piece.

Gibb

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Mail From: David B <(email redacted)>

What size is the TB?

Mark Peugeot wrote:
>
> No but I will tonight...
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Toby Weir-Jones wrote:
>
> > Have you put one on the flowbench yet? how bout the stock piece?
> >
> > twj
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Peugeot [mailto:(email redacted)]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:27 PM
> > > To: Fred Hubert
> > > Cc: Miata Power List
> > > Subject: RE: Billet Throttle Bodies...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If I had 20 sold I could get them down to about $295.00
> > >
> > > Otherwise they are $395.00
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> >

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Mail From: Larry Alster <(email redacted)>

Oh well


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow

LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Peugeot" <(email redacted)>
To: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>
Cc: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Billet Throttle Bodies...


>
> 1.8 94-01 Probably $295-395 Depending on the Quanties I have made.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Larry Alster wrote:
>
> > Cost?? Engine fitment??
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> >
> > LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
> > Masters Miata
> > RAGS 074
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Peugeot" <(email redacted)>
> > To: <(email redacted)>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:10 PM
> > Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> > > first I would like some feedback.
> > >
> > > www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


1.8 94-01 Probably $295-395 Depending on the Quanties I have made.

Mark


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Larry Alster wrote:

> Cost?? Engine fitment??
>
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
>
> LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Peugeot" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:10 PM
> Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...
>
>
> >
> > I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> > first I would like some feedback.
> >
> > www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


I will be doing it on a supercharged car that I am working on.

Mark


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, (email redacted) wrote:

> In a message dated 3/28/02 5:44:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> (email redacted) writes:
>
>
> > Well because they look cool and because they allow you to still use the
> > stock Idle air control and TPS sensor. :) Plus they will flow a lot more
> > than a 55mm, shiv claimed to pick up power going to the larger TB.
> >
> > Mark
> >
>
> They do look cool. I'd love to see a back to back dyno of one versus the
> stock piece.
>
> Gibb
>

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>

70 mm (If I remember correctly.) I'll need to check.

Mark


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, David B wrote:

> What size is the TB?
>
> Mark Peugeot wrote:
> >
> > No but I will tonight...
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Toby Weir-Jones wrote:
> >
> > > Have you put one on the flowbench yet? how bout the stock piece?
> > >
> > > twj
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark Peugeot [mailto:(email redacted)]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:27 PM
> > > > To: Fred Hubert
> > > > Cc: Miata Power List
> > > > Subject: RE: Billet Throttle Bodies...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I had 20 sold I could get them down to about $295.00
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise they are $395.00
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>

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Mail From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>


I know... No 1.6 in the works yet. Does not mean I cannot make one.

Mark


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Larry Alster wrote:

> Oh well
>
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
>
> LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Peugeot" <(email redacted)>
> To: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>
> Cc: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Billet Throttle Bodies...
>
>
> >
> > 1.8 94-01 Probably $295-395 Depending on the Quanties I have made.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Larry Alster wrote:
> >
> > > Cost?? Engine fitment??
> > >
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> > > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > >
> > > LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
> > > Masters Miata
> > > RAGS 074
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Peugeot" <(email redacted)>
> > > To: <(email redacted)>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:10 PM
> > > Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> > > > first I would like some feedback.
> > > >
> > > > www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > > PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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Mail From: "Rod Letcher" <(email redacted)>


Mark,
I am definitely interested, but I need to ck the SC bypass to see how much I
can rebore the inlet. It is IIRC 63mm now and the photo's I have indicate a
pretty good increase in size is possible.
Anyone in the market for a 1.8 TB rebored to 57mm?

Rod

>From: Mark Peugeot <(email redacted)>
>To: Larry Alster <(email redacted)>
>CC: "(email redacted)" <(email redacted)>
>Subject: Re: Billet Throttle Bodies...
>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:25:15 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>1.8 94-01 Probably $295-395 Depending on the Quanties I have made.
>
>Mark
>
>
>On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Larry Alster wrote:
>
> > Cost?? Engine fitment??
> >
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
> > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> >
> > LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
> > Masters Miata
> > RAGS 074
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Peugeot" <(email redacted)>
> > To: <(email redacted)>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 5:10 PM
> > Subject: Billet Throttle Bodies...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I am playing with the idea of mass producing these for the Miata, but
> > > first I would like some feedback.
> > >
> > > www.networkone.net/~mark/tb
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > PS - I don't even know if anyone would want them.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>


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