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Mail From: AbeFM (Abraham Mara)

People mentioned to me the advantages of 15" rims over 16 - namley that besides being lighter you can get a wide selection of decent tires for cheap.

I'm quite sold on the idea and have been looking quite seriously at picking up a set of factory 15"ers since they don't weigh much. However, I've been thinking, since what I'm after is width, couldn't I get a set of 15X6.5 or 15X7 in rims? I'm sure they will bolt onto the car, but I'm wondering what you people think about having that size rims with some decent performing tires good for a daily driver that still sees some autoxing.

Thanks in advance all!!!
-Abe.
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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

We have 15x7 Panasports on the front and 15x8 Panasports on the back of the wife's car. 205/50/15 tires on all.

miata.cardomain.com/id/honeyb

Larry

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----- Original Message -----
From: Abraham Mara
To: (email redacted) ; (email redacted)
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:14 PM
Subject: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?


People mentioned to me the advantages of 15" rims over 16 - namley that besides being lighter you can get a wide selection of decent tires for cheap.

I'm quite sold on the idea and have been looking quite seriously at picking up a set of factory 15"ers since they don't weigh much. However, I've been thinking, since what I'm after is width, couldn't I get a set of 15X6.5 or 15X7 in rims? I'm sure they will bolt onto the car, but I'm wondering what you people think about having that size rims with some decent performing tires good for a daily driver that still sees some autoxing.

Thanks in advance all!!!
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Mail From: totdots (Jamie Ruderman)

Larry, I'm curious as to what the benefit of running 15x8 wheels on the
rear with the same width tire as the front is? How about 225's on the
rear? Then adjust your suspension to compensate for any resulting
understeer?

Jamie.

--- Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:

> We have 15x7 Panasports on the front and 15x8 Panasports on the back
> of the wife's car. 205/50/15 tires on all.
>
> miata.cardomain.com/id/honeyb
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Abraham Mara
> To: (email redacted) ; (email redacted)
> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:14 PM
> Subject: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?
>
>
> People mentioned to me the advantages of 15" rims over 16 - namley
> that besides being lighter you can get a wide selection of decent
> tires for cheap.
>
> I'm quite sold on the idea and have been looking quite seriously at
> picking up a set of factory 15"ers since they don't weigh much.
> However, I've been thinking, since what I'm after is width, couldn't
> I get a set of 15X6.5 or 15X7 in rims? I'm sure they will bolt onto
> the car, but I'm wondering what you people think about having that
> size rims with some decent performing tires good for a daily driver
> that still sees some autoxing.
>
> Thanks in advance all!!!
> -Abe.
>
>
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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Tire size choices.

Try finding 225 tires in a 15" size in the proper ratio.

Larry

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Ruderman" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?


> Larry, I'm curious as to what the benefit of running 15x8 wheels on the
> rear with the same width tire as the front is? How about 225's on the
> rear? Then adjust your suspension to compensate for any resulting
> understeer?
>
> Jamie.
>
> --- Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:
>
> > We have 15x7 Panasports on the front and 15x8 Panasports on the back
> > of the wife's car. 205/50/15 tires on all.
> >
> > miata.cardomain.com/id/honeyb
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
> >
> > LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> > Masters Miata
> > RAGS 074
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Abraham Mara
> > To: (email redacted) ; (email redacted)
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:14 PM
> > Subject: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?
> >
> >
> > People mentioned to me the advantages of 15" rims over 16 - namley
> > that besides being lighter you can get a wide selection of decent
> > tires for cheap.
> >
> > I'm quite sold on the idea and have been looking quite seriously at
> > picking up a set of factory 15"ers since they don't weigh much.
> > However, I've been thinking, since what I'm after is width, couldn't
> > I get a set of 15X6.5 or 15X7 in rims? I'm sure they will bolt onto
> > the car, but I'm wondering what you people think about having that
> > size rims with some decent performing tires good for a daily driver
> > that still sees some autoxing.
> >
> > Thanks in advance all!!!
> > -Abe.
> >
> >
> >
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Mail From: bryanewyatt (Bryan Wyatt)

In all honesty, Larry, that makes me still wonder why the larger wheels, given that you're running the same tire size. Just curious...

Bryan



Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:
Tire size choices.

Try finding 225 tires in a 15" size in the proper ratio.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Ruderman"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?


> Larry, I'm curious as to what the benefit of running 15x8 wheels on the
> rear with the same width tire as the front is? How about 225's on the
> rear? Then adjust your suspension to compensate for any resulting
> understeer?
>
> Jamie.
>
> --- Larry Alster wrote:
>
> > We have 15x7 Panasports on the front and 15x8 Panasports on the back
> > of the wife's car. 205/50/15 tires on all.
> >
> > miata.cardomain.com/id/honeyb
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
> >
> > LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> > Masters Miata
> > RAGS 074
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Abraham Mara
> > To: (email redacted) ; (email redacted)
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:14 PM
> > Subject: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?
> >
> >
> > People mentioned to me the advantages of 15" rims over 16 - namley
> > that besides being lighter you can get a wide selection of decent
> > tires for cheap.
> >
> > I'm quite sold on the idea and have been looking quite seriously at
> > picking up a set of factory 15"ers since they don't weigh much.
> > However, I've been thinking, since what I'm after is width, couldn't
> > I get a set of 15X6.5 or 15X7 in rims? I'm sure they will bolt onto
> > the car, but I'm wondering what you people think about having that
> > size rims with some decent performing tires good for a daily driver
> > that still sees some autoxing.
> >
> > Thanks in advance all!!!
> > -Abe.
> >
> >
> >
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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

If you would see the car you would understand. It looks good and it's what the wife wanted and it's her car.

Larry

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Wyatt
To: (email redacted)
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?


In all honesty, Larry, that makes me still wonder why the larger wheels, given that you're running the same tire size. Just curious...

Bryan



Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:
Tire size choices.

Try finding 225 tires in a 15" size in the proper ratio.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Ruderman"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?


> Larry, I'm curious as to what the benefit of running 15x8 wheels on the
> rear with the same width tire as the front is? How about 225's on the
> rear? Then adjust your suspension to compensate for any resulting
> understeer?
>
> Jamie.
>
> --- Larry Alster wrote:
>
> > We have 15x7 Panasports on the front and 15x8 Panasports on the back
> > of the wife's car. 205/50/15 tires on all.
> >
> > miata.cardomain.com/id/honeyb
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
> >
> > LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> > Masters Miata
> > RAGS 074
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Abraham Mara
> > To: (email redacted) ; (email redacted)
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:14 PM
> > Subject: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?
> >
> >
> > People mentioned to me the advantages of 15" rims over 16 - namley
> > ! that besides being lighter you can get a wide selection of decent
> > tires for cheap.
> >
> > I'm quite sold on the idea and have been looking quite seriously at
> > picking up a set of factory 15"ers since they don't weigh much.
> > However, I've been thinking, since what I'm after is width, couldn't
> > I get a set of 15X6.5 or 15X7 in rims? I'm sure they will bolt onto
> > the car, but I'm wondering what you people think about having that
> > size rims with some decent performing tires good for a daily driver
> > that still sees some autoxing.
> >
> > Thanks in advance all!!!
> > -Abe.
> >
> >
> >
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I have a set of 15" Pansports the fronts are 7" wide and the rears are 8",I
use a 215 45 15 on the rear an 195 50 15 on the front. I am curently using
Toyo tires. The rims were special order from Japan and maybe are still available.
I have used this combo on a supercharged 1992 and my current 2000 SE.

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Mail From: bryanewyatt (Bryan Wyatt)

Oh, I'm not doubting the looks thing. I just figured as much knowledge as you have, Larry, that there was honestly something to be gained.

HB looks good either way :-)

Bryan

Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:
If you would see the car you would understand. It looks good and it's what the wife wanted and it's her car.

Larry

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Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Wyatt
To: (email redacted)
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?


In all honesty, Larry, that makes me still wonder why the larger wheels, given that you're running the same tire size. Just curious...

Bryan



Larry Alster <(email redacted)> wrote:
Tire size choices.

Try finding 225 tires in a 15" size in the proper ratio.

Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Ruderman"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?


> Larry, I'm curious as to what the benefit of running 15x8 wheels on the
> rear with the same width tire as the front is? How about 225's on the
> rear? Then adjust your suspension to compensate for any resulting
> understeer?
>
> Jamie.
>
> --- Larry Alster wrote:
>
> > We have 15x7 Panasports on the front and 15x8 Panasports on the back
> > of the wife's car. 205/50/15 tires on all.
> >
> > miata.cardomain.com/id/honeyb
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> > Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> > Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
> > Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
> >
> > LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> > Masters Miata
> > RAGS 074
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Abraham Mara
> > To: (email redacted) ; (email redacted)
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 1:14 PM
> > Subject: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?
> >
> >
> > People mentioned to me the advantages of 15" rims over 16 - namley
> > ! that besides being lighter you can get a wide selection of decent
> > tires for cheap.
> >
> > I'm quite sold on the idea and have been looking quite seriously at
> > picking up a set of factory 15"ers since they don't weigh much.
> > However, I've been thinking, since what I'm after is width, couldn't
> > I get a set of 15X6.5 or 15X7 in rims? I'm sure they will bolt onto
> > the car, but I'm wondering what you people think about having that
> > size rims with some decent performing tires good for a daily driver
> > that still sees some autoxing.
> >
> > Thanks in advance all!!!
> > -Abe.
> >
> >
> >
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Larry you got those rims from Ken Hill if I'm not mistaken. He turned me on
to that combo. Take it easy,but take it Ken R.
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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Yup but Ken ran 195/50/15 on the fronts and 205/50/15 on the rear. We traded rear rims 15 x 7 for his 15 x 8's. We wanted the 15 x 8's but there were none available for months.

As for running the 215/45/15 tires, doing a search on Tire Rack comes up with zero hits of tires in that size. The Toyo's must be one of the only tires made in that size.

Larry

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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 4:27 PM
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Larry you got those rims from Ken Hill if I'm not mistaken. He turned me on to that combo. Take it easy,but take it Ken R.
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I believe Toyo is the only maker of this size. It is the perfect diam. as
the odomoter reads 100 mi. to 100 mi. of mile markers on the highway.
Take
it easy,but take it Ken R.
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I have a set of 15" Pansports the fronts are 7" wide and the rears are 8",I use a 215 45 15 on the rear an 195 50 15 on the front. I am curently using Toyo tires. The rims were special order from Japan and maybe are still available. I have used this combo on a supercharged 1992 and my current 2000 SE. Take it easy,but take it. Ken R.
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I'm running 15x8 wheels with 225 width rubber, the correct sizing is 225/45
but I run 225/50 which is fine too, I know local guys that run 15x7.5 wheels
too and are fine as well with the 225's.
With 15x8 wheels like mine, fender rolling is a must, you might get away with
it if you find a 15x7.5 in the correct offset.

The wider the wheel the better the feeling and control are (obviously if the
tire is sized to match) since the sidewalls flex less.

Moti and the Blackbird.
I'm quite sold on the idea and have been looking quite seriously at picking
up a set of factory 15"ers since they don't weigh much. However, I've been
thinking, since what I'm after is width, couldn't I get a set of 15X6.5 or 15X7
in rims? I'm sure they will bolt onto the car, but I'm wondering what you
people think about having that size rims with some decent performing tires good
for a daily driver that still sees some autoxing.
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Larry, try 225's all around and put the 15x8 in the front and the 15x7 in the
back... it might not look as cool but driving on the track you'll love every
second of it.

I ran my 15x8's a few times with different sizes, and one of my favorite
combos is 245/45 fronts and 225/45 rear (245/40 for the front is impossible to
find), makes for awesome turn in and grip in corners, very neutral.

Moti and the Blackbird.
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Mail From: AbeFM (Abraham Mara)

Those sound like very nice rims and probably quite sensible for the track, but for street use and keeping my wallet from getting too thin, it's sounding like 15X6.5 is about where I'd want to stop?
-Abe.
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I'm running 15x8 wheels with 225 width rubber, the correct sizing is 225/45 but I run 225/50 which is fine too, I know local guys that run 15x7.5 wheels too and are fine as well with the 225's.
With 15x8 wheels like mine, fender rolling is a must, you might get away with it if you find a 15x7.5 in the correct offset.

The wider the wheel the better the feeling and control are (obviously if the tire is sized to match) since the sidewalls flex less.

Moti and the Blackbird.
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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

This is the wife's street cat. Looks matter too. :)

Larry

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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Tires for wider wheels?


Larry, try 225's all around and put the 15x8 in the front and the 15x7 in the back... it might not look as cool but driving on the track you'll love every second of it.

I ran my 15x8's a few times with different sizes, and one of my favorite combos is 245/45 fronts and 225/45 rear (245/40 for the front is impossible to find), makes for awesome turn in and grip in corners, very neutral.

Moti and the Blackbird.


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Choose your tires first then get wheels to suit. The tire manufacturer will
have a recommended range of wheel widths for a given tire and size. If the
wheels you want are available in a 15x7 and the tires will fit that, then
go ahead with the 15x7. Same for the 15x6.5, 15x6, whatever. Honestly, you
won't feel a big difference on the street.

Keith

At 04:16 PM 8/20/2004, Abraham Mara wrote:
>Those sound like very nice rims and probably quite sensible for the track,
>but for street use and keeping my wallet from getting too thin, it's
>sounding like 15X6.5 is about where I'd want to stop?
> -Abe.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:(email redacted)>(email redacted)
>I'm running 15x8 wheels with 225 width rubber, the correct sizing is
>225/45 but I run 225/50 which is fine too, I know local guys that run
>15x7.5 wheels too and are fine as well with the 225's.
>With 15x8 wheels like mine, fender rolling is a must, you might get away
>with it if you find a 15x7.5 in the correct offset.
>
>The wider the wheel the better the feeling and control are (obviously if
>the tire is sized to match) since the sidewalls flex less.
>
>Moti and the Blackbird.
>
>
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