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Mail From: AbeFM (Abraham Mara)

I might pass that along - my father likes my car quite a bit but has trouble
reaching the gas pedal (I had this problem myself for a while it was very
uncomfortable)... But with all the forced induction options and roomier
insides, it would seem a '95 or so is a good choice for a large man's
hotrod...
-Abe.
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From: "Jerry Houston" <(email redacted)>


> I think most folks who own both would probably be surprised to hear that
> there's more legroom in an NB than an NA.
>
> Although I'd sat in a new 2000 at a dealership, I didn't actually purchase
a
> Miata until I found a '96 at another dealer later, and Polly talked me
into
> trying it on. I had been convinced, sitting in the 2000, that a Miata
just
> wasn't a comfortable fit for me.
>
> We went back a little and bought the 2000 SE for her. (She's 4' 11", 92
> pounds, and fits just fine.)



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Mail From: berck (Berck E. Nash)

Jerry Houston wrote:
> I think most folks who own both would probably be surprised to hear that
> there's more legroom in an NB than an NA.

ACK! That's not what I said at all. There's more legroom on the
PASSENGER side of an NB versus an NA (at least a 91 with the ECU/ABS
computer taking up precious space on the floor.) There's far, far LESS
room on the driver's side.

The total width of the space available feels less on both sides of an NB.


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Mail From: pete (Pete Naylor)


Dan Evander wrote...

> Jeez - does anybody see the irony of this statement on a Miata list?
>
> LOL
>
> -Dan
>
>
> I could really get to like a WRX STi, if I could just get past the
> claustrophobic feel of their interior.

For me the Miata fits perfectly - admittedly the seat is as far back as
it'll go, and I'm not that big a guy - if I were any taller I think it'd
be too small. I don't recall exactly what bothered me about the WRX;
maybe I felt crowded by the windshield and steering wheel.


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Mail From: dwynne (Dennis Wynne)

"Large man's hot rod"

C5 or C5 'vette convertible has lots of room.

BMW M roadster is pretty roomy

S2000 has quite a bit more room inside than a Miata


Dennis

At 12:02 PM 08/31/2004 -0700, Abraham Mara wrote:
>I might pass that along - my father likes my car quite a bit but has trouble
>reaching the gas pedal (I had this problem myself for a while it was very
>uncomfortable)... But with all the forced induction options and roomier
>insides, it would seem a '95 or so is a good choice for a large man's
>hotrod...
> -Abe.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jerry Houston" <(email redacted)>
>
>
> > I think most folks who own both would probably be surprised to hear that
> > there's more legroom in an NB than an NA.
> >
> > Although I'd sat in a new 2000 at a dealership, I didn't actually purchase
>a
> > Miata until I found a '96 at another dealer later, and Polly talked me
>into
> > trying it on. I had been convinced, sitting in the 2000, that a Miata
>just
> > wasn't a comfortable fit for me.
> >
> > We went back a little and bought the 2000 SE for her. (She's 4' 11", 92
> > pounds, and fits just fine.)
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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Mail From: john.currier (John Currier)

The first mod any NB owner does is reverses the clip that prevents the
passenger seat from going all the way back, right?

John

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:09:49 -0700, Pete Naylor <(email redacted)> wrote:
>
> Dan Evander wrote...
>
> > Jeez - does anybody see the irony of this statement on a Miata list?
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> >
> > I could really get to like a WRX STi, if I could just get past the
> > claustrophobic feel of their interior.
>
> For me the Miata fits perfectly - admittedly the seat is as far back as
> it'll go, and I'm not that big a guy - if I were any taller I think it'd
> be too small. I don't recall exactly what bothered me about the WRX;
> maybe I felt crowded by the windshield and steering wheel.
>
>
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Mail From: AbeFM (Abraham Mara)

Those are not hot rods. Those are factory bits. Unless you're going to
dump 20k into them, you just buy them and drive them.

A hot rod is heavily modified. Buy a 95 miata for a few k, put a few k of
induction and suspension into it, and you have a 300hp 1.2g pulling MONSTER
for well under 20k.
-Abe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Wynne" <(email redacted)>


> "Large man's hot rod"
>
> C5 or C5 'vette convertible has lots of room.
>
> BMW M roadster is pretty roomy
>
> S2000 has quite a bit more room inside than a Miata
>



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Mail From: dwynne (Dennis Wynne)


... that a big man will still not fit in :-)

Dennis

At 12:46 PM 08/31/2004 -0700, Abraham Mara wrote:
>Those are not hot rods. Those are factory bits. Unless you're going to
>dump 20k into them, you just buy them and drive them.
>
>A hot rod is heavily modified. Buy a 95 miata for a few k, put a few k of
>induction and suspension into it, and you have a 300hp 1.2g pulling MONSTER
>for well under 20k.
> -Abe.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dennis Wynne" <(email redacted)>
>
>
> > "Large man's hot rod"
> >
> > C5 or C5 'vette convertible has lots of room.
> >
> > BMW M roadster is pretty roomy
> >
> > S2000 has quite a bit more room inside than a Miata
> >
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Miata mailing list
>(email redacted)
>ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata


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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Something that has always puzzled me is the complaining about fitting in a
Miata. Granted I'm not the biggest guy in the world but at 6' tall and at
one time weighing about 250 lbs I find a Miata to have more than enough
room. I do not drive with the seat all the way back, I do not drive with
the seat reclined or straight up either. I have 3 NA models and now a NB
and have no issues in any of the cars. I always wonder if people expect to
be driving from the back seat??? :)

Larry

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Wynne" <(email redacted)>
To: "Abraham Mara" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)


>
> ... that a big man will still not fit in :-)
>
> Dennis
>
> At 12:46 PM 08/31/2004 -0700, Abraham Mara wrote:
> >Those are not hot rods. Those are factory bits. Unless you're going to
> >dump 20k into them, you just buy them and drive them.
> >
> >A hot rod is heavily modified. Buy a 95 miata for a few k, put a few k
of
> >induction and suspension into it, and you have a 300hp 1.2g pulling
MONSTER
> >for well under 20k.
> > -Abe.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dennis Wynne" <(email redacted)>
> >
> >
> > > "Large man's hot rod"
> > >
> > > C5 or C5 'vette convertible has lots of room.
> > >
> > > BMW M roadster is pretty roomy
> > >
> > > S2000 has quite a bit more room inside than a Miata
> > >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Miata mailing list
> >(email redacted)
> >ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>


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Mail From: miata (David)

Well you can have a convertible WRX ..

pbase.com/image/30869080

That way you can appreciate the view while parked waiting for another
gear box.

I'm surprised the gearbox doesn't come with wingnut fittings, they need
to be replaced so often.

WRX's are nice, but they're no EVO.

- Dave.


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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Then again at least there is a chance Subaru will be in business to honor
their warranty. Who knows about Mitsubishi???

Larry

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)


> Well you can have a convertible WRX ..
>
> pbase.com/image/30869080
>
> That way you can appreciate the view while parked waiting for another
> gear box.
>
> I'm surprised the gearbox doesn't come with wingnut fittings, they need
> to be replaced so often.
>
> WRX's are nice, but they're no EVO.
>
> - Dave.
>
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Mail From: miata (Jeff Gehrig)

You have to remember, the Sti is a purpose built Rally car, that also
happens to be available to the general public. They only need to make the
numbers for homologation, what the public want, doesn't enter the equation.

Jeff Gehrig
If your UGG boots aren't
made in Australia, they
aren't UGG boots.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Abraham Mara" <(email redacted)>
To: "Pete Naylor" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)


Heh - see, I knew that would be worth asking. :-) I guess the WRX
(non-sti) version has the cheaper set up? One thing I don't like about the
STI is you cannot get it in a waggon.

There's some magical horsepower limite that manufactures don't seem to like
to cross with turbocharging, it seems. They'll always make a high HP n/a
motor, and a small super tiny high tech motor that makes almost as much
power as their big one. I never understood that. At least the 300ZXs and
Porsche don't make that mistake....

Anyways, if it's not a convertable, a wagon is a nice way to go. The
legacy's also have the "weight forward" engine placement?
-Abe.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Naylor" <(email redacted)>

> Finally, there's the WRX STi, which uses a similar planetary gearset with
> electronically controlled clutch pack for front/rear distribution, but
> couples this with a limited slip differential on both axles. This system
> rocks. I could really get to like a WRX STi, if I could just get past the
> claustrophobic feel of their interior. If Subaru would make say, an
> Outback/Legacy wagon with the H6, manual transmission and the 4WD system
> from the WRX STi, it'd be a serious contender for my cash - I still
> wouldn't buy one new, but I'd consider picking one up used after they took
> the biggest part of their depreciation hit.


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Mail From: AbeFM (Abraham Mara)

They are not exactly having trouble moving those cars, though, are they? If
it'll sell you might as well make it, methinks.
-Abe.
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From: "Jeff Gehrig" <(email redacted)>
> You have to remember, the Sti is a purpose built Rally car, that also
> happens to be available to the general public. They only need to make the
> numbers for homologation, what the public want, doesn't enter the
equation.
>



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Mail From: matthew.king (Matthew King)

The STi is not a homologation model. Maybe it originally was, but it's just
a spec level now, and available on demand, no production limits.


At 09:06 AM 1/09/2004, Abraham Mara wrote:
>They are not exactly having trouble moving those cars, though, are they? If
>it'll sell you might as well make it, methinks.
> -Abe.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Gehrig" <(email redacted)>
> > You have to remember, the Sti is a purpose built Rally car, that also
> > happens to be available to the general public. They only need to make the
> > numbers for homologation, what the public want, doesn't enter the
>equation.
> >
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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Mail From: miata (Jeff Gehrig)

What about the Evo? Has that changed too?

Jeff Gehrig
If your UGG boots aren't
made in Australia, they
aren't UGG boots.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew King" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)


The STi is not a homologation model. Maybe it originally was, but it's just
a spec level now, and available on demand, no production limits.


At 09:06 AM 1/09/2004, Abraham Mara wrote:
>They are not exactly having trouble moving those cars, though, are they?
>If
>it'll sell you might as well make it, methinks.
> -Abe.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff Gehrig" <(email redacted)>
> > You have to remember, the Sti is a purpose built Rally car, that also
> > happens to be available to the general public. They only need to make
> > the
> > numbers for homologation, what the public want, doesn't enter the
>equation.
> >
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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Mail From: matthew.king (Matthew King)

The EVO (in Australia) is limited by low volume import restrictions. If
they (Mitsu) bring in any more than 100, they have to get full ADR
compliance approval done. That equals big dollars, which equals more
sticker price, which equals less profit. They had enough trouble moving all
the EVO VI's they had... Again, nothing to do with homologation.


At 09:15 AM 1/09/2004, Jeff Gehrig wrote:
>What about the Evo? Has that changed too?
>
>Jeff Gehrig
>If your UGG boots aren't
>made in Australia, they
>aren't UGG boots.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matthew King" <(email redacted)>
>To: <(email redacted)>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)
>
>
>The STi is not a homologation model. Maybe it originally was, but it's just
>a spec level now, and available on demand, no production limits.
>
>
>At 09:06 AM 1/09/2004, Abraham Mara wrote:
> >They are not exactly having trouble moving those cars, though, are they?
> >If
> >it'll sell you might as well make it, methinks.
> > -Abe.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jeff Gehrig" <(email redacted)>
> > > You have to remember, the Sti is a purpose built Rally car, that also
> > > happens to be available to the general public. They only need to make
> > > the
> > > numbers for homologation, what the public want, doesn't enter the
> >equation.
> > >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Miata mailing list
> >(email redacted)
> >ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>
>_______________________________________________
>Miata mailing list
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Mail From: jerry.houston (Jerry Houston)

Part of it depends on your inseam length, as well. I'm about 6' 2" with
shoes on (the way I normally drive), and have fairly long legs. I *can*
drive my wife's NB, and have done so on occasion, but unless there's a
compelling reason for me to do so, I'd rather drive my NA, or the Shadow, or
the FJR, or the Jeep. Or walk.

From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>
Subject: Re: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)


> Something that has always puzzled me is the complaining about fitting in a
> Miata. Granted I'm not the biggest guy in the world but at 6' tall and at
> one time weighing about 250 lbs I find a Miata to have more than enough
> room. I do not drive with the seat all the way back, I do not drive with
> the seat reclined or straight up either. I have 3 NA models and now a NB
> and have no issues in any of the cars. I always wonder if people expect
to
> be driving from the back seat??? :)


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Mail From: berck (Berck E. Nash)

Larry Alster wrote:
> Something that has always puzzled me is the complaining about fitting in a
> Miata. Granted I'm not the biggest guy in the world but at 6' tall and at
> one time weighing about 250 lbs I find a Miata to have more than enough
> room. I do not drive with the seat all the way back, I do not drive with
> the seat reclined or straight up either. I have 3 NA models and now a NB
> and have no issues in any of the cars. I always wonder if people expect to
> be driving from the back seat??? :)

I'm 6'2" and 240. I move the seat bottom two notches forward in my '91
for street driving and a bit farther forward on the track. In a 2002
SE, the seat's all the way back, my knees hit on the console, the
steering wheel and the armrest. I can't see for the rearview mirror in
my way, and my head hits the top when I go over a bump. Maybe an extra
2" in height makes enough difference.


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Mail From: chip (William Chip Lamb)

Feeling claustrophobic in a Miata? That's an easy fix. 2 latches and you're done.

Now if you're one of those hardtop people without a friend to help you heave that boat anchor off there, I can't help you.

Chip
Not claustrophobic
Will gladly accept donation of said hardtop

-----Original message-----
From: Dan Evander (email redacted)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:12:34 -0400
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)

> Jeez - does anybody see the irony of this statement on a Miata list?
>
> LOL
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
> I could really get to like a WRX STi, if I could just get past the
> claustrophobic feel of their interior.
> _______________________________________________
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_____________________________________
Cheers-

William "Chip" Lamb
West of Sweden SAAB
Charles City, VA
wmsbrg.com/sweden/
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Mail From: miata (Jeff Gehrig)

If you need help to get a 19 Kilogram piece of plastic off the car, NO-ONE
can help you! ;-{)

Jeff Gehrig
If your UGG boots aren't
made in Australia, they
aren't UGG boots.


----- Original Message -----
From: "William Chip Lamb" <(email redacted)>
To: "Dan Evander" <(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)


Feeling claustrophobic in a Miata? That's an easy fix. 2 latches and you're
done.

Now if you're one of those hardtop people without a friend to help you heave
that boat anchor off there, I can't help you.

Chip
Not claustrophobic
Will gladly accept donation of said hardtop

-----Original message-----
From: Dan Evander (email redacted)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:12:34 -0400
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)

> Jeez - does anybody see the irony of this statement on a Miata list?
>
> LOL
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
> I could really get to like a WRX STi, if I could just get past the
> claustrophobic feel of their interior.
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata


_____________________________________
Cheers-

William "Chip" Lamb
West of Sweden SAAB
Charles City, VA
wmsbrg.com/sweden/
_____________________________________

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Mail From: johkar (John Karasaki)

We own one, a 1999.5 A4 avant V6. You are right about them not being very
user friendly. However, the oil changes are pretty easy. Actually, they
are easier than the Miata if you can believe that.

Watch out for the following: bad suspension tie rods, ball joints,
bushings, etc. They have been known to fail prematurely. There is a
recall in Europe, but the US hasn't issued it yet. Also watch out for
front cam and crank seals leaking. The cam seals will definitely be
leaking if it has 50k+ miles and they haven't been replaced under
warrantee. Also, make sure the timing belt, water pump, tensioners, etc.
are changed at 60k intervals. Unlike the Miata, the modern Audi engines
are interference engines and will bend valves if the belt breaks or slips.

Check out Audiworld.com for more details.

HTH.

John

At 07:33 PM 8/27/04 +0000, Ken Bogart wrote:
>I think they are nice cars, but they are not user service friendly. Need a
>dealer visit for even an oil change...
>
>Of course, I don't have any first hand experience on this...
>
>
>
>Original Message:
> >From: "John Freas" <(email redacted)>
> >To: "Miata List" <(email redacted)>
> >Subject: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)
> >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:16:25 -0500
>
> >Hey all,
> >
> >I am looking into the purchase of a OTM/MSV in the form of a Audi A4
> Quattro wagon. I'm looking at 1998-1999 cars with the V6. Anybody have
> experience with these beasts? Recommendations, cautions, acclaim?
> >
> >TIA.
> >
> > -John
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> >John Freas
> >Red '90 Base-ish #7690
> >Columbus, IN
> >Team LS1,2, SP, the Gap...
> >I love my Miata girl.
> >"I have no idea what those dimple things on the windshield frame are for."
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> >
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> >
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Mail From: johkar (John Karasaki)

Relatively the same animal in a different skin.


At 09:18 PM 8/27/04 -0500, John Freas wrote:
>Thanks Bryan (and everyone).
>
>That said, the alternative is a Passat wagon, which is based on the same
>B5 platform. Any reason to expect it to be easier or less expensive to
>maintain because of the VW badge, or is it the same animal in a different skin?
>
> -John
>
><mailto: (email redacted)>John Freas
>Red '90 Base-ish #<tinyurl.com/q82r>7690
>Columbus, IN
>Team LS1,2, SP, the Gap...
>I love <geocities.com/clash_girl/Spike_Scrapbook.html>my Miata
>girl.
>"I have no idea what those dimple things on the windshield frame are for."
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:(email redacted)>Bryan Wyatt
>To: <mailto:(email redacted)>(email redacted)
>Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 3:19 PM
>Subject: re: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)
>
>One of the Cinci club members and I were just discussing that very fact on
>Wednesday. His A4 1.8T is a nice car he says, but yeah, even for simple
>stuff, you have to go to the dealer. Add that to the fact that all parts
>have to come from Germany, and you've got one expensive (to operate) vehicle.
>
>Bryan
>
>Ken Bogart <<mailto:(email redacted)>(email redacted)> wrote:
>I think they are nice cars, but they are not user service friendly. Need a
>dealer visit for even an oil change...
>
>Of course, I don't have any first hand experience on this...
>
>
>
>
>
>Original Message:
> >From: "John Freas"
> >To: "Miata List"
> >Subject: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)
> >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:16:25 -0500
>
> >Hey all,
> >
> >I am looking into the purchase of a OTM/MSV in the form of a Audi A4
> Quattro wagon. I'm looking at 1998-1999 cars with the V6. Anybody have
> experience with these beasts? Recommendations, cautions, acclaim?
> >
> >TIA.
> >
> > -John
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> >Red '90 Base-ish #7690
> >Columbus, IN
> >Team LS1,2, SP, the Gap...
> >I love my Miata girl.
> >"I have no idea what those dimple things on the windshield frame are for."
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At 01:39 AM 8/29/04 -0700, Pete Naylor wrote:

><snip>known that a Torsen LSD has superior properties to viscous couplings,
>Audi's current implementation just doesn't end up as the preferred option
>- the BMW is widely regarded as being a much more rewarding vehicle to
>drive - that's reflected in new prices and resale values. <snip>

BMW new prices and resale values have more to do with status than
performance. A friend has sold BMWs for over a decade. The typical buyer
is not performance minded...



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Mail From: bryanewyatt (Bryan Wyatt)

Actually...I've got two large scratches on Junior from the last time I tried to get his hardtop on...at least I got a good deal on the top.

-BW

Jeff Gehrig <(email redacted)> wrote:
If you need help to get a 19 Kilogram piece of plastic off the car, NO-ONE
can help you! ;-{)

Jeff Gehrig
If your UGG boots aren't
made in Australia, they
aren't UGG boots.


----- Original Message -----
From: "William Chip Lamb"
To: "Dan Evander" ;
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)


Feeling claustrophobic in a Miata? That's an easy fix. 2 latches and you're
done.

Now if you're one of those hardtop people without a friend to help you heave
that boat anchor off there, I can't help you.

Chip
Not claustrophobic
Will gladly accept donation of said hardtop

-----Original message-----
From: Dan Evander (email redacted)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:12:34 -0400
To: (email redacted)
Subject: RE: [Miata] Fw: OTM Buying (NMC)

> Jeez - does anybody see the irony of this statement on a Miata list?
>
> LOL
>
> -Dan
>
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> I could really get to like a WRX STi, if I could just get past the
> claustrophobic feel of their interior.
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Mail From: dwynne (Dennis Wynne)

The typical buyer may not be, but the cars are designed to be driven
"properly". I had a 2001 330i and it was a super car, comfortable, quick,
great handling and road feel for a sedan - a really nice car. I would have
kept it if I had not replaced it with an M5 :-) Giddy-up, indeed!

As far as Audi/VW goes they seem to be on hard times, product quality-wise
(as is BMW of late). The consumer reports survey shows really bad as does
folks I know that have either brand - Audi is worse around here since we
have one (not too good, it seems) dealer. BMW has slipped lately too - I
think I lot of it has to do with the new 7 and 5 series and the I-drive and
other "too much" electronics they have loaded on the cars. Of course the
"Bangle-esque" new designs have kept long time BMW owners from buying new cars
as well.

Dennis

At 11:06 PM 08/31/2004 -0700, John Karasaki wrote:
>At 01:39 AM 8/29/04 -0700, Pete Naylor wrote:
>
>><snip>known that a Torsen LSD has superior properties to viscous couplings,
>>Audi's current implementation just doesn't end up as the preferred option
>>- the BMW is widely regarded as being a much more rewarding vehicle to
>>drive - that's reflected in new prices and resale values. <snip>
>
>BMW new prices and resale values have more to do with status than
>performance. A friend has sold BMWs for over a decade. The typical buyer
>is not performance minded...
>
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