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Mail From: rowdon (DON SCOTT)

I use the Mazda brand B2600 filter. It's a bit bigger than the Mazda
Miata filter, but fits without any problem. Still, I did notice a few
years ago that oil filters from the Mazda dealer, even though they have
Mazda written all over them, are manufactured in the US now rather than
Japan, so the quality may have declined.
Don Scott
'91 BRG
'92 Integra GSR
'62 MGA

>>> "Johnson, Sean" <(email redacted)> 5/23/2006 5:43:21 AM
>>>

You wrote:

"I've always used the ones available from the Miata dealer. I do use
a
larger Mazda filter as fitted to my Mazda B2600 truck. It is a bit
longer but same diameter. My experience with oil and filters is that
I
was able to cure valve lifter clatter by using the factory filter with
Castrol 10-30 oil. This was my experience with two used Miatas, both
having low miles, but both with clatter on startup.
don Scott"

Does this mean you use the B2600 Mazda filter from the dealer, or a
Miata filter from the dealer?

I wonder whats different?

regards,

Sean Johnson
['92 clatter driving me nuts]


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Mail From: the.jack (the.jack)

Oops... Sent this from my work email!

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Also someone on this list clued me that [one of] the Civic filters work as well. I'd have to get under the car
to see the part number though as I don't recall it.
Of course then the filter's definitely not from a "Mazda" filter! Fords are allegedly Purolators, so I wouldn't
be surprised if Mazdas were as well if/when the filters aren't coming from Japan as Don is indicating - or maybe some of
them come from Japan, others from American producers, etc... Wouldn't surprise me.
If that's the case I'm definitely sticking with my ACDs ('bout the only ACD thing I have ever used, actually).
I will be looking into the B2600 and see if that's a larger filter than the Civic one as an alternative, although for
sure you'll NEVER fail to find a car part for a Civic no matter where in the world you go!
I don't do 3000 miles in 3 months... Is synth [Mobil 1] good for longer time periods without changing? It's
been three months and about 1000 miles (have to check my trip-o-meter). I've heard perfectly opposed comments on
synthetic: 1) it turns to cloppy gelatin after "3 months" regardless of mileage and you MUST change it and 2) it
withstands time periods (as well as mileage and heat) much better than dino oil and you are just wasting your money
draining it... I'd LOVE it if someone would further confuse me ;)

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

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On Behalf Of DON SCOTT
Subject: [Miata] Oil filters

I use the Mazda brand B2600 filter. It's a bit bigger than the Mazda Miata filter, but fits without any problem. Still,
I did notice a few years ago that oil filters from the Mazda dealer, even though they have Mazda written all over them,
are manufactured in the US now rather than Japan, so the quality may have declined. Don Scott '91 BRG '92 Integra GSR
'62 MGA

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Mail From: flyboy (Berck E. Nash)

the.jack wrote:

> I don't do 3000 miles in 3 months... Is synth [Mobil 1] good for longer time periods without changing? It's
> been three months and about 1000 miles (have to check my trip-o-meter). I've heard perfectly opposed comments on
> synthetic: 1) it turns to cloppy gelatin after "3 months" regardless of mileage and you MUST change it and 2) it
> withstands time periods (as well as mileage and heat) much better than dino oil and you are just wasting your money
> draining it... I'd LOVE it if someone would further confuse me ;)

Hahahahah. I guess you joined after the month-long synth v. dino debate.

I'll give you the short of it: No one has any hard data, and everyone
has their own thing.

I personally run full synthetic (used to be Royal Purple, but now I can
get Mobil 1 5W-30 cheaper) and change it every 10,000 miles, with an oil
filter change every 5,000 miles. Even that's probably changing it more
than I really need to.

I wouldn't run dino longer than 3,000.

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Mail From: the.jack (the.jack)

Actually I think I've weathered a couple on here (and several million on prior lists for sure)... Thing is I
don't remember this specific issue coming up - that is "atmospheric" breakdown of the oil. I've never run dino longer
than 3000 / 3 mon, but by most accounts it seems synth is safer for time.
BMW maintenance is what 12000/6 month or something funky like that (built in to the lease these days)? And tell
me some of those owners aren't hammering on their vehicles... And I have heard several times - without confirmation OF
COURSE - that BMW's synth IS or is at least extremely close to Mobil 1.
Anyway, I just don't rack up the mileage, I'll run out of time before miles! My oil will dry to dust before I
burn it away :)

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berck E. Nash [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Subject: Re: FW: [Miata] Oil filters
>
> Hahahahah. I guess you joined after the month-long synth v.
> dino debate.
>
> I'll give you the short of it: No one has any hard data, and
> everyone has their own thing.
>
> I personally run full synthetic (used to be Royal Purple, but
> now I can get Mobil 1 5W-30 cheaper) and change it every
> 10,000 miles, with an oil filter change every 5,000 miles.
> Even that's probably changing it more than I really need to.
>
> I wouldn't run dino longer than 3,000.

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Mail From: flyboy (Berck E. Nash)

the.jack wrote:
> Actually I think I've weathered a couple on here (and several million on prior lists for sure)... Thing is I
> don't remember this specific issue coming up - that is "atmospheric" breakdown of the oil. I've never run dino longer
> than 3000 / 3 mon, but by most accounts it seems synth is safer for time.
> BMW maintenance is what 12000/6 month or something funky like that (built in to the lease these days)? And tell
> me some of those owners aren't hammering on their vehicles... And I have heard several times - without confirmation OF
> COURSE - that BMW's synth IS or is at least extremely close to Mobil 1.
> Anyway, I just don't rack up the mileage, I'll run out of time before miles! My oil will dry to dust before I
> burn it away :)

Well, synthetic oils don't break down over time as much as conventional
oils, is my understanding. I think yearly oil changes are probably a
safe way to go-- and that's what I do for my truck that's only driven a
few thousand miles a year.

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Mail From: tbeavan1 (Terry Beavan)

I believe Porsche specs Mobile 1 for the Boxster (and for their other
cars for all I know) and they allow for yearly oil changes and a huge
amount of miles between changes--maybe even more time and mileage betwen
changes for the later ones--good thing too, seeing as how that car takes
something like 9 quarts of the stuff or more.
Terry

Berck E. Nash wrote:

> the.jack wrote:
>
>> Actually I think I've weathered a couple on here (and several million on prior lists for sure)... Thing is I
>>don't remember this specific issue coming up - that is "atmospheric" breakdown of the oil. I've never run dino longer
>>than 3000 / 3 mon, but by most accounts it seems synth is safer for time.
>> BMW maintenance is what 12000/6 month or something funky like that (built in to the lease these days)? And tell
>>me some of those owners aren't hammering on their vehicles... And I have heard several times - without confirmation OF
>>COURSE - that BMW's synth IS or is at least extremely close to Mobil 1.
>> Anyway, I just don't rack up the mileage, I'll run out of time before miles! My oil will dry to dust before I
>>burn it away :)
>
>
> Well, synthetic oils don't break down over time as much as conventional
> oils, is my understanding. I think yearly oil changes are probably a
> safe way to go-- and that's what I do for my truck that's only driven a
> few thousand miles a year.
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