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Mail From: rmcelwee (rmcelwee)

We drove for about an hour behind a Pontiac Solstice yesterday in West
Virginia. The car had a Michigan "Manufacturer Plate" on it. We've never
seen that before and we were trying to figure out what it was. Any ideas?

FWIW, a 2006 Solstice handles and accelerates much better 1994 Isuzu Pickup
Truck (for those of you who were choosing between the two). My wife and I
were playing high speed paparazzi and were having a hard time getting good
pictures.


Robert McElwee and Red Beast
1991 T25 Turbo @ 15 PSI
Link ECU, FM IC, 9:1 pistons
Over 350 lbs of "added lightness"
www.lightweightmiata.com

Lightweight Miata Group:
autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/lightweightmiata/

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Usually used when the car is from the car manufacturer themselves. Sort of
like a Dealer plate but for the car maker. Not a legally registered car but
a street legal car give to a person for a test drive/report/loan.


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "rmcelwee" <(email redacted)>
To: "miatapower" <(email redacted)>; "miata list"
<(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


> We drove for about an hour behind a Pontiac Solstice yesterday in West
> Virginia. The car had a Michigan "Manufacturer Plate" on it. We've never
> seen that before and we were trying to figure out what it was. Any ideas?
>
> FWIW, a 2006 Solstice handles and accelerates much better 1994 Isuzu
> Pickup
> Truck (for those of you who were choosing between the two). My wife and I
> were playing high speed paparazzi and were having a hard time getting good
> pictures.
>
>
> Robert McElwee and Red Beast
> 1991 T25 Turbo @ 15 PSI
> Link ECU, FM IC, 9:1 pistons
> Over 350 lbs of "added lightness"
> www.lightweightmiata.com
>
> Lightweight Miata Group:
> autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/lightweightmiata/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>

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Mail From: rmcelwee (rmcelwee)

Larry, you are getting pretty good at these instantaneous replies. At some
point in the future I think it may even be possible for you to reply before
the question is asked <G>.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>
To: "rmcelwee" <(email redacted)>; "miatapower"
<(email redacted)>; "miata list" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


> Usually used when the car is from the car manufacturer themselves. Sort
of
> like a Dealer plate but for the car maker. Not a legally registered car
but
> a street legal car give to a person for a test drive/report/loan.
>
>
> Larry
>

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Drinking coffee and surfing this AM.

Cable service and good mail servers make things happen almost ASAP


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "rmcelwee" <(email redacted)>
To: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>; "miatapower"
<(email redacted)>; "miata list" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


> Larry, you are getting pretty good at these instantaneous replies. At some
> point in the future I think it may even be possible for you to reply
> before
> the question is asked <G>.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>
> To: "rmcelwee" <(email redacted)>; "miatapower"
> <(email redacted)>; "miata list" <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
>
>> Usually used when the car is from the car manufacturer themselves. Sort
> of
>> like a Dealer plate but for the car maker. Not a legally registered car
> but
>> a street legal car give to a person for a test drive/report/loan.
>>
>>
>> Larry
>>
>
>

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Mail From: pb (Petra van den Berge)

Doesn't necessarily need to be a street legal car.
Prototypes (that will and can never become street legal cars) are also
driven with manufacturer plates. You could spot them in places like
Death Valley and the like.

Petra

Op 24-sep-05 om 14:02 heeft Larry Alster het volgende geschreven:

> Usually used when the car is from the car manufacturer themselves.
> Sort of like a Dealer plate but for the car maker. Not a legally
> registered car but a street legal car give to a person for a test
> drive/report/loan.
>
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
> Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rmcelwee"
> <(email redacted)>
> To: "miatapower" <(email redacted)>; "miata list"
> <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:57 AM
> Subject: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
>
>> We drove for about an hour behind a Pontiac Solstice yesterday in West
>> Virginia. The car had a Michigan "Manufacturer Plate" on it. We've
>> never
>> seen that before and we were trying to figure out what it was. Any
>> ideas?
>>
>> FWIW, a 2006 Solstice handles and accelerates much better 1994 Isuzu
>> Pickup
>> Truck (for those of you who were choosing between the two). My wife
>> and I
>> were playing high speed paparazzi and were having a hard time getting
>> good
>> pictures.
>>
>>
>> Robert McElwee and Red Beast
>> 1991 T25 Turbo @ 15 PSI
>> Link ECU, FM IC, 9:1 pistons
>> Over 350 lbs of "added lightness"
>> www.lightweightmiata.com
>>
>> Lightweight Miata Group:
>> autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/lightweightmiata/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Well I guess your right, what I meant by street legal is that it's not a
racecar. Your point is well taken in that it might not be a registerable
vehicle but I think it must be "street legal" in that it has all the items
needed to drive legally on the street. But these tags get used for legal
vehicles too.


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petra van den Berge" <(email redacted)>
To: "miata list" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


> Doesn't necessarily need to be a street legal car.
> Prototypes (that will and can never become street legal cars) are also
> driven with manufacturer plates. You could spot them in places like Death
> Valley and the like.
>
> Petra
>
> Op 24-sep-05 om 14:02 heeft Larry Alster het volgende geschreven:
>
>> Usually used when the car is from the car manufacturer themselves. Sort
>> of like a Dealer plate but for the car maker. Not a legally registered
>> car but a street legal car give to a person for a test drive/report/loan.
>>
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
>> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
>> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
>> Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>>
>> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
>> Masters Miata
>> RAGS 074
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rmcelwee"
>> <(email redacted)>
>> To: "miatapower" <(email redacted)>; "miata list"
>> <(email redacted)>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:57 AM
>> Subject: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>>
>>
>>> We drove for about an hour behind a Pontiac Solstice yesterday in West
>>> Virginia. The car had a Michigan "Manufacturer Plate" on it. We've never
>>> seen that before and we were trying to figure out what it was. Any
>>> ideas?
>>>
>>> FWIW, a 2006 Solstice handles and accelerates much better 1994 Isuzu
>>> Pickup
>>> Truck (for those of you who were choosing between the two). My wife and
>>> I
>>> were playing high speed paparazzi and were having a hard time getting
>>> good
>>> pictures.
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert McElwee and Red Beast
>>> 1991 T25 Turbo @ 15 PSI
>>> Link ECU, FM IC, 9:1 pistons
>>> Over 350 lbs of "added lightness"
>>> www.lightweightmiata.com
>>>
>>> Lightweight Miata Group:
>>> autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/lightweightmiata/
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Miata mailing list
>>> (email redacted)
>>> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>
> _______________________________________________
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> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>

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Mail From: rmcelwee (rmcelwee)

We were on I-77 driving south through the toll booths. The rear fascia on the car looked like it was going to fly off at 85 MPH. I wish we had been in the Miata so we could have had some fun!


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Streilein
To: rmcelwee
Cc: miatapower ; miata list
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


That's really funny, a few weeks ago I was in West Virginia (just south of berkely springs) and saw a "camoflaged" solstice driving around, I guess they test in the mountains out there?

Dave
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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Ah come on you mean that killer PU of yours wasn't up to the task of playing chicken with a Solstice????


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: rmcelwee
To: Dave Streilein
Cc: miatapower ; miata list
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: [Miata] Re: NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


We were on I-77 driving south through the toll booths. The rear fascia on the car looked like it was going to fly off at 85 MPH. I wish we had been in the Miata so we could have had some fun!


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Streilein
To: rmcelwee
Cc: miatapower ; miata list
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


That's really funny, a few weeks ago I was in West Virginia (just south of berkely springs) and saw a "camoflaged" solstice driving around, I guess they test in the mountains out there?

Dave



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Mail From: markbooth (Mark Booth)

Speaking of the Solstice, I'll be getting a (very) short test drive in one
today. Pontiac is hosting a driving event -somewhat similar to Mazda's Rev
It Up- in Irvine. Last night, I talked with an SDMC member who attended
yesterday and he was extremely under whelmed with the Solstice. He said
people were literally laughing out loud about the poor excuse for a trunk
and that the overall "mood" was one of skepticism.

I plan to take lots of photos and post them to a web photo page. If I
haven't posted the link by Monday, somebody give me a shout to remind me.

Mark

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Just goes to show you what money does to true journalistic integrity.

Can't remember which magazine it was but this month's issue tested the
Solstice and threw in a Miata and picked the Solstice "For now".

Want to bet advertising dollars had something to do with the choice.


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Booth" <(email redacted)>
To: "Miata E-mail List" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


> Speaking of the Solstice, I'll be getting a (very) short test drive in one
> today. Pontiac is hosting a driving event -somewhat similar to Mazda's
> Rev
> It Up- in Irvine. Last night, I talked with an SDMC member who attended
> yesterday and he was extremely under whelmed with the Solstice. He said
> people were literally laughing out loud about the poor excuse for a trunk
> and that the overall "mood" was one of skepticism.
>
> I plan to take lots of photos and post them to a web photo page. If I
> haven't posted the link by Monday, somebody give me a shout to remind me.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>

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Mail From: nik586 (MH)


It is all a matter of perspective... The Cab-and-a-Half-Chevy owners laugh
at my Miata trunk too, when they see me drop one tool box into it and then
struggle to fit my lunch kit and back pack around it.

Supposedly, I had a chance to see one up here in Manitoba, but missed it. I
was hoping to do a park beside photo comparison.

Marvin

-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of Mark Booth
Sent: September 24, 2005 8:54 AM
To: Miata E-mail List
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?

Speaking of the Solstice, I'll be getting a (very) short test drive in one
today. Pontiac is hosting a driving event -somewhat similar to Mazda's Rev
It Up- in Irvine. Last night, I talked with an SDMC member who attended
yesterday and he was extremely under whelmed with the Solstice. He said
people were literally laughing out loud about the poor excuse for a trunk
and that the overall "mood" was one of skepticism.

I plan to take lots of photos and post them to a web photo page. If I
haven't posted the link by Monday, somebody give me a shout to remind me.

Mark
_______________________________________________
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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Look here:

geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/MSM-Solstice/images/full/index.html


Kind of amazing!!!



Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "MH" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


>
> It is all a matter of perspective... The Cab-and-a-Half-Chevy owners
> laugh
> at my Miata trunk too, when they see me drop one tool box into it and then
> struggle to fit my lunch kit and back pack around it.
>
> Supposedly, I had a chance to see one up here in Manitoba, but missed it.
> I
> was hoping to do a park beside photo comparison.
>
> Marvin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On
> Behalf
> Of Mark Booth
> Sent: September 24, 2005 8:54 AM
> To: Miata E-mail List
> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
> Speaking of the Solstice, I'll be getting a (very) short test drive in one
> today. Pontiac is hosting a driving event -somewhat similar to Mazda's
> Rev
> It Up- in Irvine. Last night, I talked with an SDMC member who attended
> yesterday and he was extremely under whelmed with the Solstice. He said
> people were literally laughing out loud about the poor excuse for a trunk
> and that the overall "mood" was one of skepticism.
>
> I plan to take lots of photos and post them to a web photo page. If I
> haven't posted the link by Monday, somebody give me a shout to remind me.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>

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Mail From: nik586 (MH)


At certain angles I like the nose, or at least the general idea, of the nose
of the Solstice. I was a fan of the Dodge Copperhead prototype a while back
and this reminds me of it a bit. But that rear end? They let the Aztec
designer help, didn't they.

Marvin
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
Sent: September 24, 2005 9:27 AM
To: MH; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?

Look here:

geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/MSM-Solstice/image
s/full/index.html


Kind of amazing!!!



Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "MH" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


>
> It is all a matter of perspective... The Cab-and-a-Half-Chevy owners
> laugh
> at my Miata trunk too, when they see me drop one tool box into it and then
> struggle to fit my lunch kit and back pack around it.
>
> Supposedly, I had a chance to see one up here in Manitoba, but missed it.
> I
> was hoping to do a park beside photo comparison.
>
> Marvin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On
> Behalf
> Of Mark Booth
> Sent: September 24, 2005 8:54 AM
> To: Miata E-mail List
> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
> Speaking of the Solstice, I'll be getting a (very) short test drive in one
> today. Pontiac is hosting a driving event -somewhat similar to Mazda's
> Rev
> It Up- in Irvine. Last night, I talked with an SDMC member who attended
> yesterday and he was extremely under whelmed with the Solstice. He said
> people were literally laughing out loud about the poor excuse for a trunk
> and that the overall "mood" was one of skepticism.
>
> I plan to take lots of photos and post them to a web photo page. If I
> haven't posted the link by Monday, somebody give me a shout to remind me.
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

I saw the same pictures where someone Photshopped the 2 cars side by side.
The Sol looks like a truck next to the Miata


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "MH" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


>
> At certain angles I like the nose, or at least the general idea, of the
> nose
> of the Solstice. I was a fan of the Dodge Copperhead prototype a while
> back
> and this reminds me of it a bit. But that rear end? They let the Aztec
> designer help, didn't they.
>
> Marvin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: September 24, 2005 9:27 AM
> To: MH; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
> Look here:
>
> geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/MSM-Solstice/image
> s/full/index.html
>
>
> Kind of amazing!!!
>
>
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
> Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MH" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
>
>>
>> It is all a matter of perspective... The Cab-and-a-Half-Chevy owners
>> laugh
>> at my Miata trunk too, when they see me drop one tool box into it and
>> then
>> struggle to fit my lunch kit and back pack around it.
>>
>> Supposedly, I had a chance to see one up here in Manitoba, but missed it.
>> I
>> was hoping to do a park beside photo comparison.
>>
>> Marvin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mark Booth
>> Sent: September 24, 2005 8:54 AM
>> To: Miata E-mail List
>> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac
>> Solstice)?
>>
>> Speaking of the Solstice, I'll be getting a (very) short test drive in
>> one
>> today. Pontiac is hosting a driving event -somewhat similar to Mazda's
>> Rev
>> It Up- in Irvine. Last night, I talked with an SDMC member who attended
>> yesterday and he was extremely under whelmed with the Solstice. He said
>> people were literally laughing out loud about the poor excuse for a trunk
>> and that the overall "mood" was one of skepticism.
>>
>> I plan to take lots of photos and post them to a web photo page. If I
>> haven't posted the link by Monday, somebody give me a shout to remind me.
>>
>> Mark
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/first-sol-exp/images/full/index.html


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "MH" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


>
> At certain angles I like the nose, or at least the general idea, of the
> nose
> of the Solstice. I was a fan of the Dodge Copperhead prototype a while
> back
> and this reminds me of it a bit. But that rear end? They let the Aztec
> designer help, didn't they.
>
> Marvin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: September 24, 2005 9:27 AM
> To: MH; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
> Look here:
>
> geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/MSM-Solstice/image
> s/full/index.html
>
>
> Kind of amazing!!!
>
>
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
> Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MH" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
>
>>
>> It is all a matter of perspective... The Cab-and-a-Half-Chevy owners
>> laugh
>> at my Miata trunk too, when they see me drop one tool box into it and
>> then
>> struggle to fit my lunch kit and back pack around it.
>>
>> Supposedly, I had a chance to see one up here in Manitoba, but missed it.
>> I
>> was hoping to do a park beside photo comparison.
>>
>> Marvin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mark Booth
>> Sent: September 24, 2005 8:54 AM
>> To: Miata E-mail List
>> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac
>> Solstice)?
>>
>> Speaking of the Solstice, I'll be getting a (very) short test drive in
>> one
>> today. Pontiac is hosting a driving event -somewhat similar to Mazda's
>> Rev
>> It Up- in Irvine. Last night, I talked with an SDMC member who attended
>> yesterday and he was extremely under whelmed with the Solstice. He said
>> people were literally laughing out loud about the poor excuse for a trunk
>> and that the overall "mood" was one of skepticism.
>>
>> I plan to take lots of photos and post them to a web photo page. If I
>> haven't posted the link by Monday, somebody give me a shout to remind me.
>>
>> Mark
>> _______________________________________________
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>> (email redacted)
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>> (email redacted)
>> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>>
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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/msm-sol-sizes/images/full/index.html


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "MH" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


>
> At certain angles I like the nose, or at least the general idea, of the
> nose
> of the Solstice. I was a fan of the Dodge Copperhead prototype a while
> back
> and this reminds me of it a bit. But that rear end? They let the Aztec
> designer help, didn't they.
>
> Marvin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Alster [mailto:(email redacted)]
> Sent: September 24, 2005 9:27 AM
> To: MH; (email redacted)
> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
> Look here:
>
> geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/MSM-Solstice/image
> s/full/index.html
>
>
> Kind of amazing!!!
>
>
>
> Larry
>
> White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
> Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
> Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
> Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5
>
> LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
> Masters Miata
> RAGS 074
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MH" <(email redacted)>
> To: <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 10:14 AM
> Subject: RE: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
>
>>
>> It is all a matter of perspective... The Cab-and-a-Half-Chevy owners
>> laugh
>> at my Miata trunk too, when they see me drop one tool box into it and
>> then
>> struggle to fit my lunch kit and back pack around it.
>>
>> Supposedly, I had a chance to see one up here in Manitoba, but missed it.
>> I
>> was hoping to do a park beside photo comparison.
>>
>> Marvin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mark Booth
>> Sent: September 24, 2005 8:54 AM
>> To: Miata E-mail List
>> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac
>> Solstice)?
>>
>> Speaking of the Solstice, I'll be getting a (very) short test drive in
>> one
>> today. Pontiac is hosting a driving event -somewhat similar to Mazda's
>> Rev
>> It Up- in Irvine. Last night, I talked with an SDMC member who attended
>> yesterday and he was extremely under whelmed with the Solstice. He said
>> people were literally laughing out loud about the poor excuse for a trunk
>> and that the overall "mood" was one of skepticism.
>>
>> I plan to take lots of photos and post them to a web photo page. If I
>> haven't posted the link by Monday, somebody give me a shout to remind me.
>>
>> Mark
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>> _______________________________________________
>> Miata mailing list
>> (email redacted)
>> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>

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Mail From: jerry.houston (Jerry Houston)

I-77? Toll booths?

Isn't that a US interstate highway that was paid for by our taxes?

----- Original Message -----
From: rmcelwee
Subject: [Miata] Re: NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?

We were on I-77 driving south through the toll booths. The rear fascia on
the car looked like it was going to fly off at 85 MPH. I wish we had been in
the Miata so we could have had some fun!

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Larry Alster wrote:
> Look here:
>
> geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/MSM-Solstice/images/full/index.html
>
> Kind of amazing!!!

Yeah. Stylistically, there's no comparison at all. The Solstice looks more
like a Grand Am than a sportscar.

Remember, though, Pontiac is the company that thought we'd like the Aztec.
Compared to that venture, the Solstice is truly gorgeous. They oughta get
*something* for "most improved."

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

One would think, right??? I 95 in the DC area has tolls too!!!


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Houston" <(email redacted)>
To: "rmcelwee" <(email redacted)>; "Dave Streilein"
<(email redacted)>
Cc: "miata list" <(email redacted)>; "miatapower"
<(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] Re: NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac
Solstice)?


> I-77? Toll booths?
>
> Isn't that a US interstate highway that was paid for by our taxes?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rmcelwee
> Subject: [Miata] Re: NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?
>
> We were on I-77 driving south through the toll booths. The rear fascia on
> the car looked like it was going to fly off at 85 MPH. I wish we had been
> in the Miata so we could have had some fun!
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

It's not just the styling. It's the sizing. It looks bloated. And from
what I understand putting up the top by yourself is a marathon exercise.


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM FM I+ Turbo
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow J.R. M45
Whooosh 2004 Titanium MazdaSpeed MX5

LowCountry Miata lowcountrymiataclub.net
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Houston" <(email redacted)>
To: "Larry Alster" <(email redacted)>; "MH" <(email redacted)>;
<(email redacted)>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?


> Larry Alster wrote:
>> Look here:
>>
>> geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/MSM-Solstice/images/full/index.html
>>
>> Kind of amazing!!!
>
> Yeah. Stylistically, there's no comparison at all. The Solstice looks
> more like a Grand Am than a sportscar.
>
> Remember, though, Pontiac is the company that thought we'd like the Aztec.
> Compared to that venture, the Solstice is truly gorgeous. They oughta get
> *something* for "most improved."
>

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Mail From: nik586 (MH)


I wouldn't be ready to say its not a sports car, but look at all that
rubber... Imagine stuffing in a 2.0 Uber...

Marvin
-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of Jerry Houston
Sent: September 24, 2005 10:55 AM
To: Larry Alster; MH; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: What is a manufacturer plate (Pontiac Solstice)?

Larry Alster wrote:
> Look here:
>
> geog.ucsb.edu/~jeisz/other/vehicles/webgallery/MSM-Solstice
> /images/full/index.html
>
> Kind of amazing!!!

Yeah. Stylistically, there's no comparison at all. The Solstice looks more
like a Grand Am than a sportscar.

Remember, though, Pontiac is the company that thought we'd like the Aztec.
Compared to that venture, the Solstice is truly gorgeous. They oughta get
*something* for "most improved."

_______________________________________________
Miata mailing list
(email redacted)
ftl.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: nogood123 (NoGood)

I have spent quite a bit of time with both the Solstice and the Sky,
just couldn't drive them and I've got to say they are very good looking
in person. In many ways the Sky is the edgier and nicer looking. I
think I like the Solstice dash more tho.

They don't look bloated at all.

There are some angles that I don't like but I definitely like them
much, much more than the new MX5. And then there is the fact that this
is the engine that GM has tested to destruction multiple times to find
the way to give it more power.

I actually have a turbo system sitting in my garage that would fit one.
I have no plans to buy one, but it's nice to know that if I did
upgrades are cheap and plentiful


On Sep 24, 2005, at 11:03 AM, MH wrote:

>
> I wouldn't be ready to say its not a sports car, but look at all that
> rubber... Imagine stuffing in a 2.0 Uber...
>
> Yeah. Stylistically, there's no comparison at all. The Solstice
> looks more
> like a Grand Am than a sportscar.
>
> Remember, though, Pontiac is the company that thought we'd like the
> Aztec.
> Compared to that venture, the Solstice is truly gorgeous. They oughta
> get
> *something* for "most improved."