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Mail From: pmoisse (Paul Moisse)

I knew this would happen! The wankers at Speedchannel have preempted Leg 1
of Rally Argentina for some live NASCAR talkshow from The Winston! They
don't run till Sunday folks, what's the big deal? They show NASCAR the bulk
of the day, why wreck other quality live programming? If it was just a
repeat of something...fine. But when they advertise that they will show
every leg of every rally, then pull this stunt, one is left to wonder why.

Another good thing that has sold out

Paul



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Mail From: bhengen (Bob Hengen)

Unlax!! :-)
It's on right now, 11:33 pm est.
Bob
Red 90A - Buckeye MC - CSP #72
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Moisse" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:19 PM
Subject: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> I knew this would happen! The wankers at Speedchannel have preempted Leg
1
> of Rally Argentina for some live NASCAR talkshow from The Winston! They
> don't run till Sunday folks, what's the big deal? They show NASCAR the
bulk
> of the day, why wreck other quality live programming? If it was just a
> repeat of something...fine. But when they advertise that they will show
> every leg of every rally, then pull this stunt, one is left to wonder why.
>
> Another good thing that has sold out
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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Mail From: pmoisse (Paul Moisse)

yeah...saw that. I was just about to go to bed figuring that I would be
robbed of some good rally action. But fortunately, their schedule was jsut
off by a half hour...wankers.

wouldn't have surprised me any to see it canceled in favour of roundy-round
though

Paul


>From: "Bob Hengen" <(email redacted)>
>To: "Paul Moisse" <(email redacted)>, <(email redacted)>
>Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel
>Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 23:35:08 -0400
>
>Unlax!! :-)
>It's on right now, 11:33 pm est.
>Bob
>Red 90A - Buckeye MC - CSP #72
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Moisse" <(email redacted)>
>To: <(email redacted)>
>Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:19 PM
>Subject: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel
>
>
> > I knew this would happen! The wankers at Speedchannel have preempted
>Leg
>1
> > of Rally Argentina for some live NASCAR talkshow from The Winston! They
> > don't run till Sunday folks, what's the big deal? They show NASCAR the
>bulk
> > of the day, why wreck other quality live programming? If it was just a
> > repeat of something...fine. But when they advertise that they will show
> > every leg of every rally, then pull this stunt, one is left to wonder
>why.
> >
> > Another good thing that has sold out
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
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Mail From: Craigmri (Craig Goldstein)

The Speed channel has butchered the programming in favor of NASCAR. I'm
so sick of it. A couple of weeks ago they cut into a live AMA
Supersport motorcycle race as it was half way through to show a Nascar
show reviewing a race that was already over!!! I was steamed!

Craig
MIG #2
SVS and PT Cruiser driver


-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of Paul Moisse
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:19 PM
To: (email redacted)
Subject: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel

I knew this would happen! The wankers at Speedchannel have preempted
Leg 1
of Rally Argentina for some live NASCAR talkshow from The Winston! They

don't run till Sunday folks, what's the big deal? They show NASCAR the
bulk
of the day, why wreck other quality live programming? If it was just a
repeat of something...fine. But when they advertise that they will show

every leg of every rally, then pull this stunt, one is left to wonder
why.

Another good thing that has sold out

Paul



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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

Sorry but it's reality. It's like I keep trying to explain to the guy I
work with. He's always outraged that he can't see exciting sports like
bicycle racing and archery 24 hours a day. He fails to understand some
people would rather watch paint dry than watch bicycle racing.

Obviously more people would rather watch the NASCAR show than the rally.
Sorry but to some people rallys are like watching paint drying.

Look at it this way. If it was popular enough there would be the all rally
all the time channel.


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow

LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
Masters Miata
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Moisse" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:19 PM
Subject: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> I knew this would happen! The wankers at Speedchannel have preempted Leg
1
> of Rally Argentina for some live NASCAR talkshow from The Winston! They
> don't run till Sunday folks, what's the big deal? They show NASCAR the
bulk
> of the day, why wreck other quality live programming? If it was just a
> repeat of something...fine. But when they advertise that they will show
> every leg of every rally, then pull this stunt, one is left to wonder why.
>
> Another good thing that has sold out
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Mail From: Craigmri (Craig Goldstein)

Larry I agree with you but when a program is advertised in advance as a
LIVE BROADCAST then without notice interrupted smack in the middle of
the program you gotta admit somethings not right.

Craig
MIG #2
SVS and PT Cruiser driver


-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of Larry Alster
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 7:48 AM
To: Paul Moisse; (email redacted)
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel

Sorry but it's reality. It's like I keep trying to explain to the guy I
work with. He's always outraged that he can't see exciting sports like
bicycle racing and archery 24 hours a day. He fails to understand some
people would rather watch paint dry than watch bicycle racing.

Obviously more people would rather watch the NASCAR show than the rally.
Sorry but to some people rallys are like watching paint drying.

Look at it this way. If it was popular enough there would be the all
rally
all the time channel.


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow

LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Moisse" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:19 PM
Subject: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> I knew this would happen! The wankers at Speedchannel have preempted
Leg
1
> of Rally Argentina for some live NASCAR talkshow from The Winston!
They
> don't run till Sunday folks, what's the big deal? They show NASCAR
the
bulk
> of the day, why wreck other quality live programming? If it was just
a
> repeat of something...fine. But when they advertise that they will
show
> every leg of every rally, then pull this stunt, one is left to wonder
why.
>
> Another good thing that has sold out
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Mail From: mhood (Michael Hood)

Email them and complain. If enough people send complaints about the
excessive redneck racing programming.. They might do something about it.
Problem is, Nascar is the most popular motorsport in the US so they use that
to get veiwers.... Then advertisers pay them good money for ad slots :(

-Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Moisse" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:19 PM
Subject: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> I knew this would happen! The wankers at Speedchannel have preempted Leg
1
> of Rally Argentina for some live NASCAR talkshow from The Winston! They
> don't run till Sunday folks, what's the big deal? They show NASCAR the
bulk
> of the day, why wreck other quality live programming? If it was just a
> repeat of something...fine. But when they advertise that they will show
> every leg of every rally, then pull this stunt, one is left to wonder why.
>
> Another good thing that has sold out
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: messenger.msn.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

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Mail From: pmoisse (Paul Moisse)

true enough...and I know that an all rally, or all F1 or all Monster Truck
channel would get boring really quick. It's when they say they're going to
show something at a certain time, or maintain their coverage of certain
events, and the change that without telling anyone that bothers me. I
literally saw a commercial for rally last night at 10:40 advertising it to
be on at 11, their website said the same thing. But their broadcast said
otherwise.

Just kind of bothersome, youu know?

Paul


>From: Larry Alster <(email redacted)>
>To: Paul Moisse <(email redacted)>, (email redacted)
>Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel
>Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 07:48:12 -0400
>
>Sorry but it's reality. It's like I keep trying to explain to the guy I
>work with. He's always outraged that he can't see exciting sports like
>bicycle racing and archery 24 hours a day. He fails to understand some
>people would rather watch paint dry than watch bicycle racing.
>
>Obviously more people would rather watch the NASCAR show than the rally.
>Sorry but to some people rallys are like watching paint drying.
>
>Look at it this way. If it was popular enough there would be the all rally
>all the time channel.
>
>
>Larry
>
>White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
>Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
>Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow
>
>LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
>Masters Miata
>RAGS 074
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Moisse" <(email redacted)>
>To: <(email redacted)>
>Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:19 PM
>Subject: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel
>
>
> > I knew this would happen! The wankers at Speedchannel have preempted
>Leg
>1
> > of Rally Argentina for some live NASCAR talkshow from The Winston! They
> > don't run till Sunday folks, what's the big deal? They show NASCAR the
>bulk
> > of the day, why wreck other quality live programming? If it was just a
> > repeat of something...fine. But when they advertise that they will show
> > every leg of every rally, then pull this stunt, one is left to wonder
>why.
> >
> > Another good thing that has sold out
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: messenger.msn.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
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Mail From: Jon Etkins" <eccles (Jon Etkins)

On Sat, 18 May 2002 03:36:21 +0000, Paul Moisse wrote:

>But fortunately, their schedule was jsut
>off by a half hour...

...which means that those of us who were recording it, missed the last
half-hour. Thanks a bunch, SpeedTV.

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Mail From: Jon Etkins" <eccles (Jon Etkins)

On Sat, 18 May 2002 08:13:56 -0500, Michael Hood wrote:

>Email them and complain. If enough people send complaints about the
>excessive redneck racing programming.. They might do something about it.

Done, via their Feedback page:

"I just sat down to watch Leg One of the Rally of Argentina, which was
broadcast on Friday night. To my amazement, I found myself watching
some sort of live panel discussion from what appeared to be a CART
race. (I wouldn't know - I never watch CART, IRL or NASCAR.) The WRC
coverage eventually started 30 minutes late, which of course meant that
I missed the last half-hour because my recording stopped at the
scheduled time.

"Considering the high profile that Speed Channel is currently giving
its the World Rally Championship coverage, I find it amazing that you
treat it with such a cavalier attitude that you feel free to just bump
it by half an hour to make way for a bunch of talking heads.

"If I sound upset, it's because I am! I pay for SpeedTV so that I can
watch events which are not available anywhere else - the WRC, the
British Touring Car Championship and the Shell Australian V8
Championship among others - and I get upset when I see them being
shoved aside to make way for yet more roundy-round racing."

Cheers,
Jon Etkins
10AE #1407 CS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
'02 Vivid Yellow "POLLEN" (Hers)
Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs

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Mail From: Jon Etkins" <eccles (Jon Etkins)

It gets worse! Day two's Rally Argentina coverage was interrupted
about 35 minutes in, this time by NASCAR crud. The drone who broke in
was quick to assure the WRC fans that they'd be picking up exactly
where they broke in once they'd finished interrupting, but for crying
out loud, what is so damned important that it can't wait another 25
minutes at that time of night?!? Resuming half an hour later isn't
much good to folks who are recording the advertised timeslot. :/

It's just as well that they recap the previous day's action at the
start of each day's coverage, since I've now missed the last half of
both days one and two. At least they left day three in peace.
Hallelujah!

Guess I'll have to start padding my WRC recordings by 30 minutes each,
if this is going to become the norm. Sheesh.


On Mon, 20 May 2002 00:23:40 -0500, Jon Etkins wrote:

>On Sat, 18 May 2002 08:13:56 -0500, Michael Hood wrote:
>
>>Email them and complain. If enough people send complaints about the
>>excessive redneck racing programming.. They might do something about it.
>
>Done, via their Feedback page:
>
>"I just sat down to watch Leg One of the Rally of Argentina, which was
>broadcast on Friday night. To my amazement, I found myself watching
>some sort of live panel discussion from what appeared to be a CART
>race. (I wouldn't know - I never watch CART, IRL or NASCAR.) The WRC
>coverage eventually started 30 minutes late, which of course meant that
>I missed the last half-hour because my recording stopped at the
>scheduled time.
>
>"Considering the high profile that Speed Channel is currently giving
>its the World Rally Championship coverage, I find it amazing that you
>treat it with such a cavalier attitude that you feel free to just bump
>it by half an hour to make way for a bunch of talking heads.
>
>"If I sound upset, it's because I am! I pay for SpeedTV so that I can
>watch events which are not available anywhere else - the WRC, the
>British Touring Car Championship and the Shell Australian V8
>Championship among others - and I get upset when I see them being
>shoved aside to make way for yet more roundy-round racing."
>
>Cheers,
>Jon Etkins
>10AE #1407 CS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
>'02 Vivid Yellow "POLLEN" (Hers)
>Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs

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Mail From: bhengen (Bob Hengen)

Sheesh!
You will always get two or three replays of all the WRC action later in the
week.
Things were backed up Saturday because of the late coverage of The Winston.
(BTW, Sainz ended up winning the rally, Solberg 2nd, C. McRae 3rd.)
Bob
Red 90A - Buckeye MC - CSP #72
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Etkins" <(email redacted)>
To: <(email redacted)>
Cc: <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> It gets worse! Day two's Rally Argentina coverage was interrupted
> about 35 minutes in, this time by NASCAR crud. The drone who broke in
> was quick to assure the WRC fans that they'd be picking up exactly
> where they broke in once they'd finished interrupting, but for crying
> out loud, what is so damned important that it can't wait another 25
> minutes at that time of night?!? Resuming half an hour later isn't
> much good to folks who are recording the advertised timeslot. :/
>
> It's just as well that they recap the previous day's action at the
> start of each day's coverage, since I've now missed the last half of
> both days one and two. At least they left day three in peace.
> Hallelujah!
>
> Guess I'll have to start padding my WRC recordings by 30 minutes each,
> if this is going to become the norm. Sheesh.
>

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Mail From: Jon Etkins" <eccles (Jon Etkins)

On Tue, 21 May 2002 10:07:41 -0400, Bob Hengen wrote:

>You will always get two or three replays of all the WRC action later in the
>week.

In between the interminable replays of all the roundy-rounds, eh? ;)
One of the attractions of the WRC coverage is that it's same-day -
watching replays of days one and two after already watching the last
day "live" just doesn't quite have the same appeal.

>Things were backed up Saturday because of the late coverage of The Winston.

And that affected Friday night's show how, exactly?

>(BTW, Sainz ended up winning the rally, Solberg 2nd, C. McRae 3rd.)

Thanks. I understand Richard Petty won the NASCAR race.

Sorry, I guess this is a sore point with me. We used to have a similar
problem in Australia every now and then, because one network had the
rights to the F1 championship and a bunch of other international
sporting events. The live coverage of the British Grand Prix would
routinely get bumped by the British Open golf, but at least they told
you up front so you could set your VCR accordingly.

Cheers,
Jon Etkins
10AE #1407 CS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
'02 Vivid Yellow "POLLEN" (Hers)
Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs

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Mail From: bonni (Bonni Weatherwax)

> Things were backed up Saturday because of the late coverage of The
Winston.
> (BTW, Sainz ended up winning the rally, Solberg 2nd, C. McRae 3rd.)

COOL!!! I love watching Sainz run! He's awesome! Crazy, but awesome!!!

BW - big rally fan

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Mail From: Jon Etkins" <eccles (Jon Etkins)

On Tue, 21 May 2002 07:39:50 -0700, Bonni Weatherwax wrote:

>> (BTW, Sainz ended up winning the rally, Solberg 2nd, C. McRae 3rd.)
>
>COOL!!! I love watching Sainz run! He's awesome! Crazy, but awesome!!!

Erm, Bonni, he's yankin' yer chain. I won't spoil it for you except to
tell you that none of those placings were accurate.

Cheers,
Jon.

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Mail From: bhengen (Bob Hengen)

I've got news for you, those standings are 100% accurate.
Bob
Red 90A - Buckeye MC - CSP #72
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Etkins" <(email redacted)>
To: "Bob Hengen" <(email redacted)>; "Bonni Weatherwax"
<(email redacted)>; <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> On Tue, 21 May 2002 07:39:50 -0700, Bonni Weatherwax wrote:
>
> >> (BTW, Sainz ended up winning the rally, Solberg 2nd, C. McRae 3rd.)
> >
> >COOL!!! I love watching Sainz run! He's awesome! Crazy, but awesome!!!
>
> Erm, Bonni, he's yankin' yer chain. I won't spoil it for you except to
> tell you that none of those placings were accurate.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon.
>
>

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Mail From: tablaw (Terry Baird)

Jon:
The programmers are obviously idiots. They think their viewing public
will be content with the Nascrap stuff with motorcycle and some other
peripheral programming crammed in between. I am tired of viewing old re-runs
of Motorweek, Hotrod Magazine etc. which have been running the same edition of
the program for more than a month. I previously enjoyed those programs, (e.g.
the Motorweek, etc.) before the change in programming last fall. Sorry, but
Speedtv has lost a viewer, except when broadcasting F1, Sebring, or Lemans
style programs. Their channel is no longer my first choice when the TV is
turned on. Terry

Jon Etkins wrote:

> It gets worse! Day two's Rally Argentina coverage was interrupted
> about 35 minutes in, this time by NASCAR crud. The drone who broke in
> was quick to assure the WRC fans that they'd be picking up exactly
> where they broke in once they'd finished interrupting, but for crying
> out loud, what is so damned important that it can't wait another 25
> minutes at that time of night?!? Resuming half an hour later isn't
> much good to folks who are recording the advertised timeslot. :/
>
> It's just as well that they recap the previous day's action at the
> start of each day's coverage, since I've now missed the last half of
> both days one and two. At least they left day three in peace.
> Hallelujah!
>
> Guess I'll have to start padding my WRC recordings by 30 minutes each,
> if this is going to become the norm. Sheesh.
>
> On Mon, 20 May 2002 00:23:40 -0500, Jon Etkins wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 18 May 2002 08:13:56 -0500, Michael Hood wrote:
> >
> >>Email them and complain. If enough people send complaints about the
> >>excessive redneck racing programming.. They might do something about it.
> >
> >Done, via their Feedback page:
> >
> >"I just sat down to watch Leg One of the Rally of Argentina, which was
> >broadcast on Friday night. To my amazement, I found myself watching
> >some sort of live panel discussion from what appeared to be a CART
> >race. (I wouldn't know - I never watch CART, IRL or NASCAR.) The WRC
> >coverage eventually started 30 minutes late, which of course meant that
> >I missed the last half-hour because my recording stopped at the
> >scheduled time.
> >
> >"Considering the high profile that Speed Channel is currently giving
> >its the World Rally Championship coverage, I find it amazing that you
> >treat it with such a cavalier attitude that you feel free to just bump
> >it by half an hour to make way for a bunch of talking heads.
> >
> >"If I sound upset, it's because I am! I pay for SpeedTV so that I can
> >watch events which are not available anywhere else - the WRC, the
> >British Touring Car Championship and the Shell Australian V8
> >Championship among others - and I get upset when I see them being
> >shoved aside to make way for yet more roundy-round racing."
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Jon Etkins
> >10AE #1407 CS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
> >'02 Vivid Yellow "POLLEN" (Hers)
> >Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs
>
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Mail From: Jon Etkins" <eccles (Jon Etkins)

Wow, I hadn't watched Monday night's post-event wrap-up yet, so I wasn't
aware that Burns had been excluded as well as Gronholm. 20 grams, eh.
Still, as Burns himself said, "The weight seems small but rules are rules.
Sporting issues are sometimes not black and white, but a weight is a
weight."

Cheers,
Jon Etkins
10AE #1407 CS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
'02 Vivid Yellow "POLLEN" (Hers)
Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs

On Tue, 21 May 2002 11:39:03 -0400, Bob Hengen wrote:

>I've got news for you, those standings are 100% accurate.
>Bob

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Mail From: pmoisse (Paul Moisse)

I totally agree with Terry and John...

If you can't trust their online channel guide, what's the point really? I
am fortunate enough here in Canada that TSN (The Sports Network) buys the
ITV feed from the UK and plays that live. While I like the Speedvision guys
like Hobbs and co, since they aren't at the track, you just don't get the
same feeling. And I think the Brits have a bit more insight to be offered
what with Martin Brundle having retired from F1 only 3 years ago and still
running LeMans cars.

They haven't lost a viewer in me, but I will say that my patience is very
quickly wearing thin with the world revolving (turning left of course)
around NASCRAP

Paul


>From: Terry Baird <(email redacted)>
>To: Jon Etkins <(email redacted)>
>CC: "(email redacted)" <(email redacted)>,
>"(email redacted)" <(email redacted)>
>Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:11:15 -0700
>
>Jon:
> The programmers are obviously idiots. They think their viewing public
>will be content with the Nascrap stuff with motorcycle and some other
>peripheral programming crammed in between. I am tired of viewing old
>re-runs
>of Motorweek, Hotrod Magazine etc. which have been running the same edition
>of
>the program for more than a month. I previously enjoyed those programs,
>(e.g.
>the Motorweek, etc.) before the change in programming last fall. Sorry, but
>Speedtv has lost a viewer, except when broadcasting F1, Sebring, or Lemans
>style programs. Their channel is no longer my first choice when the TV is
>turned on. Terry
>
>Jon Etkins wrote:
>
> > It gets worse! Day two's Rally Argentina coverage was interrupted
> > about 35 minutes in, this time by NASCAR crud. The drone who broke in
> > was quick to assure the WRC fans that they'd be picking up exactly
> > where they broke in once they'd finished interrupting, but for crying
> > out loud, what is so damned important that it can't wait another 25
> > minutes at that time of night?!? Resuming half an hour later isn't
> > much good to folks who are recording the advertised timeslot. :/
> >
> > It's just as well that they recap the previous day's action at the
> > start of each day's coverage, since I've now missed the last half of
> > both days one and two. At least they left day three in peace.
> > Hallelujah!
> >
> > Guess I'll have to start padding my WRC recordings by 30 minutes each,
> > if this is going to become the norm. Sheesh.
> >
> > On Mon, 20 May 2002 00:23:40 -0500, Jon Etkins wrote:
> >
> > >On Sat, 18 May 2002 08:13:56 -0500, Michael Hood wrote:
> > >
> > >>Email them and complain. If enough people send complaints about the
> > >>excessive redneck racing programming.. They might do something about
>it.
> > >
> > >Done, via their Feedback page:
> > >
> > >"I just sat down to watch Leg One of the Rally of Argentina, which was
> > >broadcast on Friday night. To my amazement, I found myself watching
> > >some sort of live panel discussion from what appeared to be a CART
> > >race. (I wouldn't know - I never watch CART, IRL or NASCAR.) The WRC
> > >coverage eventually started 30 minutes late, which of course meant that
> > >I missed the last half-hour because my recording stopped at the
> > >scheduled time.
> > >
> > >"Considering the high profile that Speed Channel is currently giving
> > >its the World Rally Championship coverage, I find it amazing that you
> > >treat it with such a cavalier attitude that you feel free to just bump
> > >it by half an hour to make way for a bunch of talking heads.
> > >
> > >"If I sound upset, it's because I am! I pay for SpeedTV so that I can
> > >watch events which are not available anywhere else - the WRC, the
> > >British Touring Car Championship and the Shell Australian V8
> > >Championship among others - and I get upset when I see them being
> > >shoved aside to make way for yet more roundy-round racing."
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Jon Etkins
> > >10AE #1407 CS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
> > >'02 Vivid Yellow "POLLEN" (Hers)
> > >Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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Mail From: bonni (Bonni Weatherwax)

> >COOL!!! I love watching Sainz run! He's awesome! Crazy, but awesome!!!
>
> Erm, Bonni, he's yankin' yer chain. I won't spoil it for you except to
> tell you that none of those placings were accurate.
>
You're talking about the road rally dude, right? He didn't win? Darn.
He's fun to watch though, unless I'm thinking of the wrong dude.

BW

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Mail From: bonni (Bonni Weatherwax)

Burns himself said, "The weight seems small but rules are rules.
> Sporting issues are sometimes not black and white, but a weight is a
> weight."
>
Yeah, and the only give a rat's butt when you win. That plagues even SM
racing.

BW

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Mail From: carguy (David B)

I have only turned Speed tv on twice since the change over. it just
isn't worth the hassel. There is never anything on but nascar when I
check the listings no matter what time of day or night I have a moment
ot watch.

All of you talk of other shows being on, but obviously my time schedule
doesn't ever match any of the good stuff.

I have even downgraded my satellite channels effective the first of the
month. I only upgraded to get Speedvision, now there is no reason to
spend the money.

David b.

Terry Baird wrote:
>
> Jon:
> The programmers are obviously idiots. They think their viewing public
> will be content with the Nascrap stuff with motorcycle and some other
> peripheral programming crammed in between. I am tired of viewing old re-runs
> of Motorweek, Hotrod Magazine etc. which have been running the same edition of
> the program for more than a month. I previously enjoyed those programs, (e.g.
> the Motorweek, etc.) before the change in programming last fall. Sorry, but
> Speedtv has lost a viewer, except when broadcasting F1, Sebring, or Lemans
> style programs. Their channel is no longer my first choice when the TV is
> turned on. Terry
>
> Jon Etkins wrote:
>
> > It gets worse! Day two's Rally Argentina coverage was interrupted
> > about 35 minutes in, this time by NASCAR crud. The drone who broke in
> > was quick to assure the WRC fans that they'd be picking up exactly
> > where they broke in once they'd finished interrupting, but for crying
> > out loud, what is so damned important that it can't wait another 25
> > minutes at that time of night?!? Resuming half an hour later isn't
> > much good to folks who are recording the advertised timeslot. :/
> >
> > It's just as well that they recap the previous day's action at the
> > start of each day's coverage, since I've now missed the last half of
> > both days one and two. At least they left day three in peace.
> > Hallelujah!
> >
> > Guess I'll have to start padding my WRC recordings by 30 minutes each,
> > if this is going to become the norm. Sheesh.
> >
> > On Mon, 20 May 2002 00:23:40 -0500, Jon Etkins wrote:
> >
> > >On Sat, 18 May 2002 08:13:56 -0500, Michael Hood wrote:
> > >
> > >>Email them and complain. If enough people send complaints about the
> > >>excessive redneck racing programming.. They might do something about it.
> > >
> > >Done, via their Feedback page:
> > >
> > >"I just sat down to watch Leg One of the Rally of Argentina, which was
> > >broadcast on Friday night. To my amazement, I found myself watching
> > >some sort of live panel discussion from what appeared to be a CART
> > >race. (I wouldn't know - I never watch CART, IRL or NASCAR.) The WRC
> > >coverage eventually started 30 minutes late, which of course meant that
> > >I missed the last half-hour because my recording stopped at the
> > >scheduled time.
> > >
> > >"Considering the high profile that Speed Channel is currently giving
> > >its the World Rally Championship coverage, I find it amazing that you
> > >treat it with such a cavalier attitude that you feel free to just bump
> > >it by half an hour to make way for a bunch of talking heads.
> > >
> > >"If I sound upset, it's because I am! I pay for SpeedTV so that I can
> > >watch events which are not available anywhere else - the WRC, the
> > >British Touring Car Championship and the Shell Australian V8
> > >Championship among others - and I get upset when I see them being
> > >shoved aside to make way for yet more roundy-round racing."
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Jon Etkins
> > >10AE #1407 CS38 "BLU TOY" (His)
> > >'02 Vivid Yellow "POLLEN" (Hers)
> > >Texas Spokes & Tejas Miata clubs
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Miata mailing list
> > (email redacted)
> > realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata
>
> _______________________________________________
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> (email redacted)
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Mail From: bhengen (Bob Hengen)

If you're a racefan, it's worth the "hassle".
I watch F1, CART, Toyota Atlantic, WRC, Trans-Am, ALMS, FIM/AMA bikes, Speed
GT/Touring Car, Le Mans, etc.
I really don't understand all the griping about getting nothing but NASCAR.
(which I also watch)
YMMV
Bob
Red 90A - Buckeye MC - CSP #72
----- Original Message -----
From: "David B" <(email redacted)>
To: "Miatanet" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> I have only turned Speed tv on twice since the change over. it just
> isn't worth the hassel. There is never anything on but nascar when I
> check the listings no matter what time of day or night I have a moment
> ot watch.
>
> All of you talk of other shows being on, but obviously my time schedule
> doesn't ever match any of the good stuff.
>
> I have even downgraded my satellite channels effective the first of the
> month. I only upgraded to get Speedvision, now there is no reason to
> spend the money.
>
> David b.
>
>

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Mail From: carguy (David B)

My griping is that I haven't found any of those other venues being shown
when I am available to watch TV. Roundy round or drags is all I find

Bob Hengen wrote:
>
> If you're a racefan, it's worth the "hassle".
> I watch F1, CART, Toyota Atlantic, WRC, Trans-Am, ALMS, FIM/AMA bikes, Speed
> GT/Touring Car, Le Mans, etc.
> I really don't understand all the griping about getting nothing but NASCAR.
> (which I also watch)
> YMMV
> Bob
> Red 90A - Buckeye MC - CSP #72
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David B" <(email redacted)>
> To: "Miatanet" <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel
>
> > I have only turned Speed tv on twice since the change over. it just
> > isn't worth the hassel. There is never anything on but nascar when I
> > check the listings no matter what time of day or night I have a moment
> > ot watch.
> >
> > All of you talk of other shows being on, but obviously my time schedule
> > doesn't ever match any of the good stuff.
> >
> > I have even downgraded my satellite channels effective the first of the
> > month. I only upgraded to get Speedvision, now there is no reason to
> > spend the money.
> >
> > David b.
> >
> >

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Mail From: jonesmb (JonesMB)

>My griping is that I haven't found any of those other venues being shown
>when I am available to watch TV. Roundy round or drags is all I find

Like the previous poster, I have seen a lot of F1, CART, Toyota
Atlantic, WRC, Trans-Am, ALMS, FIM/AMA bikes, World Challenge
GT/Touring Car and Le Mans racing on Speed channel. One other road
racing series that he didn't mention is the Grand Am series. On the
scca web site, it says there that they are going to show the run-offs
on Speed TV.

To catch these good shows, you need to know the TV schedule. The
schedule is at speedtv.com. Much of the non-NASCAR racing is shown
on weekends. If you are not busy on weekends, this is a good thing.
It is not good if you have stuff to do on wekends. Most of the time
I have to set the VCR since I usually have more exciting stuff to do
on Sat nights than watch TV.

jmb

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

AMEN

Get over it. Other people watch other things. You don't like it try
getting someone to start the NASCAR FREE channel for you. Then see how long
it lasts.


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow

LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Hengen" <(email redacted)>
To: "David B" <(email redacted)>; "Miatanet" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> If you're a racefan, it's worth the "hassle".
> I watch F1, CART, Toyota Atlantic, WRC, Trans-Am, ALMS, FIM/AMA bikes,
Speed
> GT/Touring Car, Le Mans, etc.
> I really don't understand all the griping about getting nothing but
NASCAR.
> (which I also watch)
> YMMV
> Bob
> Red 90A - Buckeye MC - CSP #72
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David B" <(email redacted)>
> To: "Miatanet" <(email redacted)>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel
>
>
> > I have only turned Speed tv on twice since the change over. it just
> > isn't worth the hassel. There is never anything on but nascar when I
> > check the listings no matter what time of day or night I have a moment
> > ot watch.
> >
> > All of you talk of other shows being on, but obviously my time schedule
> > doesn't ever match any of the good stuff.
> >
> > I have even downgraded my satellite channels effective the first of the
> > month. I only upgraded to get Speedvision, now there is no reason to
> > spend the money.
> >
> > David b.
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Miata mailing list
> (email redacted)
> realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/miata

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Mail From: Larry (Larry Alster)

2 words

VCR
TIVO


Larry

White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP
Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 EM BEGI System IV Turbo +
Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow

LowCountry Miata miata.net/lowcountry
Masters Miata
RAGS 074

----- Original Message -----
From: "David B" <(email redacted)>
To: "Bob Hengen" <(email redacted)>
Cc: "Miatanet" <(email redacted)>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel


> My griping is that I haven't found any of those other venues being shown
> when I am available to watch TV. Roundy round or drags is all I find
>
> Bob Hengen wrote:
> >
> > If you're a racefan, it's worth the "hassle".
> > I watch F1, CART, Toyota Atlantic, WRC, Trans-Am, ALMS, FIM/AMA bikes,
Speed
> > GT/Touring Car, Le Mans, etc.
> > I really don't understand all the griping about getting nothing but
NASCAR.
> > (which I also watch)
> > YMMV
> > Bob
> > Red 90A - Buckeye MC - CSP #72
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David B" <(email redacted)>
> > To: "Miatanet" <(email redacted)>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Miata] NMC: BOO!!! to Speedchannel
> >
> > > I have only turned Speed tv on twice since the change over. it just
> > > isn't worth the hassel. There is never anything on but nascar when I
> > > check the listings no matter what time of day or night I have a moment
> > > ot watch.
> > >
> > > All of you talk of other shows being on, but obviously my time
schedule
> > > doesn't ever match any of the good stuff.
> > >
> > > I have even downgraded my satellite channels effective the first of
the
> > > month. I only upgraded to get Speedvision, now there is no reason to
> > > spend the money.
> > >
> > > David b.
> > >
> > >
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