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Mail From: iveralynni (Marissa)

I have to agree with whoever it was who said that... it doesn't really
matter to me what gas prices are in other countries. I live in America,
in Connecticut to be more exact.

When money is tight, the cost of gas in the UK or Timbuktu does not
affect me.

It DOES affect me, however, when gas prices go up locally 20 or 40 cents
a gallon in a two-week period when we're already going on two months
without going grocery shopping and are eating on whatever pasta is left
in the cabinet.

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Marissa aka VeraLynn
www.veralynn.org
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Mail From: robert (Rob Argento)

Marissa,

While I can feel for you, not really mattering about petrol prices in other
parts of the industrialized world will simply not help your situation not
effect national energy policy.

The price of petrol in other parts of the World certainly DOES effect you.
As long as people in England and other places in the World are willing to
pay $7.50 for a gallon it is enevitable that the prices will rise in the USA
at least until an equalibrium is reached. USA prices will probably rise as
British taxation will probably fall. Whether we like it or not, this is
simply how a WORLD market economy works in a situation where the commodity
is limited.

Among alternatives are government intervention in the form of ransoning,
taxation, limitation of profits on the part of the oil industry or
nationalisation of the industry. These solutions will not be accepted in the
USA - so expect higher prices on the long term.

/Robban


-----Original Message-----
From: (email redacted) [mailto:(email redacted)] On Behalf
Of Marissa
Sent: den 24 april 2006 18:55
To: (email redacted)
Subject: [Miata] Gas Prices.... my two cents (no pun intended!)

I have to agree with whoever it was who said that... it doesn't really
matter to me what gas prices are in other countries. I live in America, in
Connecticut to be more exact.

When money is tight, the cost of gas in the UK or Timbuktu does not affect
me.

It DOES affect me, however, when gas prices go up locally 20 or 40 cents a
gallon in a two-week period when we're already going on two months without
going grocery shopping and are eating on whatever pasta is left in the
cabinet.

--
Marissa aka VeraLynn
www.veralynn.org
OMP 94037

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Mail From: the.jack (the.jack)

Also keep in mind for every Marissa there are probably 10 (at least 5) Joe Schmoes who will bitch and complain
about gas prices... And continue to consume at the same rate in the inefficient vehicles. As the price rises, of
course, this ratio will change, but I think it'll take one hell of a jump to cause a substantial decline in usage.
We're still planning on driving to NC this summer, for example, although it'll cost about $70 more to take the trip (in
gas specifically), but $70 isn't enough to stop two families from going on vacation. Now if it cost better than 500
total (gas would have to be about $5.60), I can see that being an issue. We'll see what this year brings, maybe we'll
start looking for alternatives. Either that or change vacationing vehicles, but who's going to want to buy a Ram wagon
when gas is >5 / gal? BTW at 17mpg, the Ram wagon is equal to two families driving two vehicles getting 34 mpg, our
SAAB does this maybe even a little better, but my in-laws don't have anything that efficient. If it gets worse they
might just have to deal with their own vehicle choices, though, and we'll take the SAAB!

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

> -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf Of Rob Argento
> Subject: RE: [Miata] Gas Prices.... my two cents (no pun intended!)
>
> Marissa,
>
> While I can feel for you, not really mattering about petrol
> prices in other parts of the industrialized world will simply
> not help your situation not effect national energy policy.
>
> The price of petrol in other parts of the World certainly
> DOES effect you. As long as people in England and other
> places in the World are willing to pay $7.50 for a gallon it
> is enevitable that the prices will rise in the USA at least
> until an equalibrium is reached. USA prices will probably
> rise as British taxation will probably fall. Whether we like
> it or not, this is simply how a WORLD market economy works in
> a situation where the commodity is limited.
>
> Among alternatives are government intervention in the form of
> ransoning, taxation, limitation of profits on the part of the
> oil industry or nationalisation of the industry. These
> solutions will not be accepted in the
> USA - so expect higher prices on the long term.
>
> /Robban

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Mail From: luxvivens (Steve Parrott)

Here we are again with gas prices going up and up. I'm personally not
*that* affected by it, the Miata and my VW New Beetle help in that
category, plus I work at home, so gas costs don't hurt me as much as
most others. What is amazing is all the huge, gas guzzling SUVs and
trucks STILL on the American streets. People just will not learn. Last
year when gas hit this level the gas guzzling drivers were all in a
tizzy and even "considering" getting a more sensible vehicle. Well, the
"crisis" eased, and they hung onto their ego stroking behemoths. Now
they are in the same boat again. I have NO sympathy for anyone paying
out big bucks for these wastes of resources... if that is what they
feel they have to have, then let them pay the price.
Not trying to start another round of "I hate SUVs", but common sense
HAS to come to this country eventually.

Steve

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Mail From: lese (Les Elkins)

(email redacted) writes:
>
> Also keep in mind for every Marissa there are probably 10 (at least 5)
>Joe Schmoes who will bitch and complain
>about gas prices... And continue to consume at the same rate in the
>inefficient vehicles.

And not check their tire pressures or air cleaner filters.

My OTM, a 2001 Civic, was down to upper 20's, and I finally noticed, said
'duh' and replaced the air filter. Back to 34 highway. Probably cost me
$25 over the winter. I figure the same thing is going on nationally.....

-Les

"NEVER use a maj7 chord in any bar that is named
after a deceased NASCAR driver, a large-calibre
firearm, or an intoxicated farm animal."
-Rev. Billy C. Wirtz's Universal Chord Law

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Mail From: bonni (Bonni Weatherwax)

replaced the air filter. Back to 34 highway.

***Really? An air filter can cause that much of a difference in fuel
consumption? <scratching head> Wow, I'm really surprised -- I had no idea
it was that big of a difference.

BW

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Mail From: the.jack (the.jack)

Excellent points. I'm pretty religious about the basic filters: air, oil, fuel and checking my tire pressure.
That's only one guy handling three vehicles, though. As cars come standard with larger and larger rims and shorter and
shorter sidewalls it becomes a bigger problem; people think if the tire doesn't look low, it's not low.

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

> -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf Of Les Elkins
> Subject: RE: [Miata] Gas Prices.... my two cents (no pun intended!)
>
> And not check their tire pressures or air cleaner filters.
>
> My OTM, a 2001 Civic, was down to upper 20's, and I finally
> noticed, said 'duh' and replaced the air filter. Back to 34
> highway. Probably cost me $25 over the winter. I figure the
> same thing is going on nationally.....
>
> -Les
>
> "NEVER use a maj7 chord in any bar that is named
> after a deceased NASCAR driver, a large-calibre
> firearm, or an intoxicated farm animal."
> -Rev. Billy C. Wirtz's Universal Chord Law

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Mail From: the.jack (the.jack)

I've never experienced that much of a jump for any single change, but I imagine the filter was mucho dirty if
this were the case!

Chris C.
99 Mazda Miata 5-sp Emerald

> -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf Of Bonni Weatherwax
> Subject: Re: RE: [Miata] Gas Prices.... my two cents (no pun intended!)
>
> replaced the air filter. Back to 34 highway.
>
> ***Really? An air filter can cause that much of a difference
> in fuel consumption? <scratching head> Wow, I'm really
> surprised -- I had no idea it was that big of a difference.
>
> BW

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Mail From: iveralynni (Marissa)

At this point, I'm not sure how much it is 'willing' and how much it is
'necessary'. If I don't have gas to get to work, I don't get paid... and
then 10 other bills don't get paid.. including groceries.

I can't exactly run out and spend $35k US on a battery-powered car right
now to combat my problem of gas prices rising 20 or 40 cents a gallon
over two weeks. The question is.. at what point does it become feasible
for us all to stop being dependent on gasoline?

We're all been so ingrained and our lives built around this automobile
that happens to run on this particular fuel.. and basically the oil
companies have us wrapped around their fingers until we can wean our way
off of it.

Gotta love a free economy that allows companies to earn gobs of money in
complete disregard for the little guys (well, 'girls') like me.

Aren't cigarettes the same way?

Rob Argento wrote:
> Marissa,
>
> While I can feel for you, not really mattering about petrol prices in
other
> parts of the industrialized world will simply not help your situation not
> effect national energy policy.
>
> The price of petrol in other parts of the World certainly DOES effect
you.
> As long as people in England and other places in the World are willing to
> pay $7.50 for a gallon it is enevitable that the prices will rise in
the USA
> at least until an equalibrium is reached. USA prices will probably
rise as
> British taxation will probably fall. Whether we like it or not, this is
> simply how a WORLD market economy works in a situation where the
commodity
> is limited.
>
> Among alternatives are government intervention in the form of ransoning,
> taxation, limitation of profits on the part of the oil industry or
> nationalisation of the industry. These solutions will not be accepted
in the
> USA - so expect higher prices on the long term.
>
> /Robban
>
>
>
>


--
Marissa aka VeraLynn
www.veralynn.org
OMP 94037


--
Marissa aka VeraLynn
www.veralynn.org
OMP 94037